Topic: TESLA Model III

[rrocket]

I hate to say I told you so....BUT I TOLD YOU SO.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bertelschmitt/2017/05/04/musk-initiates-climbdown-from-teslas-high-horse-production-revolution-postponed/#6c400b51378f

[rrocket]

I thought these cars were supposed to hit the road like this quarter?  how much delay is it from original delivery date?

He said 500k cars BY 2018....seems quite far off of that possibility

[bye]

He said 500k cars BY 2018....seems quite far off of that possibility

Tesla has listed their goal as a 500k vehicle run-rate by sometime in 2018.
Meaning, at some point in 2018, Tesla will be producing 10000 vehicles per week.

[johngenx]

I wish that the company would be upfront and realistic.  It would increase their credibility and enhance the entire EV market.  I really want Tesla to succeed, but they need to be a little more responsible - they're a public company.

[rrocket]

He said 500k cars BY 2018....seems quite far off of that possibility

Tesla has listed their goal as a 500k vehicle run-rate by sometime in 2018.
Meaning, at some point in 2018, Tesla will be producing 10000 vehicles per week.

Musk himself said "by" 2018.

Isn't that different than saying "in" 2018?

Either way, it looks like the denial spin machine is revving up!

It's almost like Trump: "Who knew this could be so difficult?" LOL

[bye]

Tesla had planned to build 100k Model III per year leading up to the reveal.
After 400K reservations (and $400M in the bank for them), Tesla pivoted and said they would dramatically scale up their goals.

At this point, investors and reservations owners are happy with the progress Tesla is making.
If they don't make all of their aggressive goals, for sure they will make more than 100K Model III's in 2018, and they will make a goodly dent in the backlog of reservations.

Every other auto maker wishes they had the same "problem".  HA!

[wing]

Or buy a Bolt today?

[ChaosphereIX]

Or buy a Bolt today?

it is ugly

I can wait for my Tesla, no rush

[Guy]

Unless you find a cancelled reservation at a dealer, I understand that the wait for a Bolt is close to a year.

[Lower Level]

Or buy a Bolt today?

it is ugly

So  is the Tesla so I see no preference there.

[rrocket]

Every other auto maker wishes they had the same "problem".  HA!

I doubt it.  Other carmakers make money.  Tesla loses it hand over fist. 

Carmakers ultimate goal is to make money.

[johngenx]

Carmakers ultimate goal is to make money.

Yeah, but people rag on Toyota all the time for making cars that people buy in droves.  Are you sure the objective of the car business is to make money?

[rrocket]

Carmakers ultimate goal is to make money.

Yeah, but people rag on Toyota all the time for making cars that people buy in droves.  Are you sure the objective of the car business is to make money?

For the car companies and the money that backs them?  Yes.

At some point, if you can't make money...your car company will cease to exist regardless of product.

[Fobroader]

Carmakers ultimate goal is to make money.

Yeah, but people rag on Toyota all the time for making cars that people buy in droves.  Are you sure the objective of the car business is to make money?

Look at Mazda, easily makes more interesting cars in every segment than Toyota does, what do the unwashed, uneducated masses buy, Toyota, why, because less interesting. People do not want interesting cars in the lower end of the market.

[rrocket]

Carmakers ultimate goal is to make money.

Yeah, but people rag on Toyota all the time for making cars that people buy in droves.  Are you sure the objective of the car business is to make money?

Look at Mazda, easily makes more interesting cars in every segment than Toyota does, what do the unwashed, uneducated masses buy, Toyota, why, because less interesting. People do not want interesting cars in the lower end of the market.

I disagree. I think they buy Toyota because they are educated. Most reliable, great resale, etc.

Most people can't afford a more car every few years, so when they buy they want want the"best" they can afford. And it's tough to beat a Toyota for problem free motoring

[Gurgie]

I disagree. I think they buy Toyota because they are educated. Most reliable, great resale, etc.

Most people can't afford a more car every few years, so when they buy they want want the"best" they can afford. And it's tough to beat a Toyota for problem free boring motoring

Fixed it for you 

[rrocket]

I disagree. I think they buy Toyota because they are educated. Most reliable, great resale, etc.

Most people can't afford a more car every few years, so when they buy they want want the"best" they can afford. And it's tough to beat a Toyota for problem free boring motoring

Fixed it for you 

I think their best sellers (Rav4, Corolla, Camry) are boring segments in general. No car I've ever driven in those segments were exciting.

[Gurgie]

I disagree. I think they buy Toyota because they are educated. Most reliable, great resale, etc.

Most people can't afford a more car every few years, so when they buy they want want the"best" they can afford. And it's tough to beat a Toyota for problem free boring motoring

Fixed it for you 

I think their best sellers (Rav4, Corolla, Camry) are boring segments in general. No car I've ever driven in those segments were exciting.

Well, some would argue that the CX-5, Mazda 3 & Mazda 6 are more exciting in those very same segments... not as exciting as a 911, or IS-F though, so I get where you're going.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I disagree. I think they buy Toyota because they are educated. Most reliable, great resale, etc.

Most people can't afford a more car every few years, so when they buy they want want the"best" they can afford. And it's tough to beat a Toyota for problem free boring motoring

Fixed it for you 

Boring 
 You do not see any jeeps out there
https://youtu.be/ILYk6kO0Ne4

[Lower Level]

To the average "driver:, Boring is good. They have NO interest in actually driving and a car is an appliance to be put up with for the morning commute which most of them hate. Unbelievable to those of us who enjoy driving but the auto ENTHUSIAST may actually be a smaller percentage of the "driving" public than EV owners.