Topic: Test Drive: 2018 Honda Accord Touring 1.5T

[UnknownJinX]

I wish they would add a manual 1.5T and 2.0T model to their press vehicle fleet.  I'd really like to read about those instead of the CVT models that I'll never purchase.

Or even a DSG ( VW one not Fords version ) or the ZF 8 speed auto used by half the Euro manufacturers.

Honda CVTs are holding up well for the most part.

TBH, with the rev hang and the wet noodle clutches MT Hondas have nowadays, the CVT is worth considering.

Is it that bad?   

There are ways you can improve the feel.

You could get rid of the rev hang by tuning the car. The only problem with this is the possible warranty hassle.

Lots of people also delete the clutch delay valve(something that Honda put in after some S2000 drivers complained because they can't handle it).

Anyways, almost forgot about the elephant in the room: the CR-V and Civic with 1.5T engine is pulled in China due to fuel dilution issues. This can possibly affect the Accord as well.

[JohnnyMac]

I wish they would add a manual 1.5T and 2.0T model to their press vehicle fleet.  I'd really like to read about those instead of the CVT models that I'll never purchase.

Or even a DSG ( VW one not Fords version ) or the ZF 8 speed auto used by half the Euro manufacturers.

Honda CVTs are holding up well for the most part.

TBH, with the rev hang and the wet noodle clutches MT Hondas have nowadays, the CVT is worth considering.

Is it that bad?   

There are ways you can improve the feel.

You could get rid of the rev hang by tuning the car. The only problem with this is the possible warranty hassle.

Lots of people also delete the clutch delay valve(something that Honda put in after some S2000 drivers complained because they can't handle it).

Anyways, almost forgot about the elephant in the room: the CR-V and Civic with 1.5T engine is pulled in China due to fuel dilution issues. This can possibly affect the Accord as well.

What the heck is "fuel dilution" issues?  Not something I've heard of.  Please explain.

[tortoise]

https://www.civicx.com/threads/oil-dilution-tsb.21118/

[ktm525]

This direct injection with a turbo in a blender sized engine will not end well. It seems that one can have a turbo or direct injection but not both. Even the DI in the LR4 scares me enough to swap the oil every 8k kms. On these blender engines are they also using low tension rings for fuel economy?

Long live NA V8s!

[rrocket]

Fuel dilution typically happens more often in these engines during cold climate and/or short trips where the engine doesn't get to operating temperature quick enough.

I'm guessing Honda will make a thermostat change and an ECU reflash and all will be well.

[ktm525]

Fuel dilution typically happens more often in these engines during cold climate and/or short trips where the engine doesn't get to operating temperature quick enough.

I'm guessing Honda will make a thermostat change and an ECU reflash and all will be well.

So like every Canadian driving short short commutes for 6 months out of the year? All those gas savings are going to be chewed up by extra oil changes. 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Haven't heard of the issue with VW DI engines. I know Mazda was having dilution issues with their Sky-D engines.

[EV-Light]

Fuel dilution typically happens more often in these engines during cold climate and/or short trips where the engine doesn't get to operating temperature quick enough.

I'm guessing Honda will make a thermostat change and an ECU reflash and all will be well.

So like every Canadian driving short short commutes for 6 months out of the year? All those gas savings are going to be chewed up by extra oil changes. 

Remote start - problem solved lol


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[dkaz]

Use a quality oil like Amsoil's new formula designed to resist low speed pre ignition that these turbocharged direct injection engines are known for. Amsoil also has good fuel dilution resistance properties which is important in all direct injection engines, turbo or NA. Pennzoil Platinum is another one with good fuel dilution resistance. 

[JohnnyMac]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

[Jaeger]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

[JohnnyMac]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

I'm kind of wondering how hard it would be to put the LSD from the Civic Si on the 1.5T Accord.  I guess you could probably do the same with the 2.0T if you used the Civic Type R LSD to maybe help with the wheel hop, but I think that would probably be a lot more expensive than the Si LSD swap for the 1.5T.

[Solstice2006]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

Who are you?  What did you do to Jaeger? Smaller motor?   

[Jaeger]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

Who are you?  What did you do to Jaeger? Smaller motor?   

Smaller?  Yes.  Weaksauce?  No.  Watch the vid. 

I'd have to drive them all of course, but I've seen a couple vids of the 2.0T / manual that did not leave me at all impressed with how it puts the power down.  So it might come down to Accord 1.5T manual versus Accord 2.0T automatic.  And the winner would likely be the Civic Si manual. 

[Solstice2006]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

Who are you?  What did you do to Jaeger? Smaller motor?   

Smaller?  Yes.  Weaksauce?  No.  Watch the vid. 

I'd have to drive them all of course, but I've seen a couple vids of the 2.0T / manual that did not leave me at all impressed with how it puts the power down.  So it might come down to Accord 1.5T manual versus Accord 2.0T automatic.  And the winner would likely be the Civic Si manual. 

Weaksauce?  Compared to what?  Similar performance to other mid size sedans with the 4 cylinder engine.  Yes I watched the video, no heated seats on the sport! OMG!

[JohnnyMac]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

Who are you?  What did you do to Jaeger? Smaller motor?   

Smaller?  Yes.  Weaksauce?  No.  Watch the vid. 

I'd have to drive them all of course, but I've seen a couple vids of the 2.0T / manual that did not leave me at all impressed with how it puts the power down.  So it might come down to Accord 1.5T manual versus Accord 2.0T automatic.  And the winner would likely be the Civic Si manual. 

Weaksauce?  Compared to what?  Similar performance to other mid size sedans with the 4 cylinder engine.  Yes I watched the video, no heated seats on the sport! OMG!

That's the US model, Canadian models are spec'd differently.  Our base model Accords come with heated seats.

[Jaeger]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

Who are you?  What did you do to Jaeger? Smaller motor?   

Smaller?  Yes.  Weaksauce?  No.  Watch the vid. 

I'd have to drive them all of course, but I've seen a couple vids of the 2.0T / manual that did not leave me at all impressed with how it puts the power down.  So it might come down to Accord 1.5T manual versus Accord 2.0T automatic.  And the winner would likely be the Civic Si manual. 

Weaksauce?  Compared to what?  Similar performance to other mid size sedans with the 4 cylinder engine.  Yes I watched the video, no heated seats on the sport! OMG!

Mazda 6.

[dkaz]

I think the Sport comes with heated seats, possibly even the LX, just no heated steering wheel which is still a major omission IMO.

[Solstice2006]

Saw this review on Youtube and thought others might enjoy.  It's a review of a 1.5T manual Sport Accord.  This guy seems to like it a lot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoz6fX-Lpi8

That would be the Accord I would get, I think.  Not the rocket that the 2.0T is, but fun and engaging to drive without any of the nasty bouncy front end wheel hop that afflicts the bigger motor.  I can only dream jealously of what the highway fuel economy would be like on this thing.

Who are you?  What did you do to Jaeger? Smaller motor?   

Smaller?  Yes.  Weaksauce?  No.  Watch the vid. 

I'd have to drive them all of course, but I've seen a couple vids of the 2.0T / manual that did not leave me at all impressed with how it puts the power down.  So it might come down to Accord 1.5T manual versus Accord 2.0T automatic.  And the winner would likely be the Civic Si manual. 

Weaksauce?  Compared to what?  Similar performance to other mid size sedans with the 4 cylinder engine.  Yes I watched the video, no heated seats on the sport! OMG!

Mazda 6.

OK I will take the bait. Almost exact 0-60 mph times. 

[Jaeger]

I think the Sport comes with heated seats, possibly even the LX, just no heated steering wheel which is still a major omission IMO.

Now that I have that, not sure I can live without it.