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GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« on: June 16, 2014, 01:51:10 pm »


Vans being cut due to CAFE and midsize pickup production

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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #1 on: June 16, 2014, 02:02:48 pm »
Lol.  GM really thinks the Chevrolet City Express (a rebadged Nissan NV200) is going to replace this?  I think for lighter applications, sure.  But for the guys that need the bigger vans, I can see them flocking to the Ford Transit, Mercedes Benz Sprinter and Ram Promaster.
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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #2 on: June 16, 2014, 02:05:20 pm »
Quote from: mixmanmash on June 16, 2014, 02:02:48 pm
Lol.  GM really thinks the Chevrolet City Express (a rebadged Nissan NV200) is going to replace this?  I think for lighter applications, sure.  But for the guys that need the bigger vans, I can see them flocking to the Ford Transit, Mercedes Benz Sprinter and Ram Promaster.

Replace this? Probably not. But that's not the point it seems - they've decided to use their CAFE budget on something else.

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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #3 on: June 16, 2014, 02:38:49 pm »
Quote from: mmret on June 16, 2014, 02:05:20 pm
Quote from: mixmanmash on June 16, 2014, 02:02:48 pm
Lol.  GM really thinks the Chevrolet City Express (a rebadged Nissan NV200) is going to replace this?  I think for lighter applications, sure.  But for the guys that need the bigger vans, I can see them flocking to the Ford Transit, Mercedes Benz Sprinter and Ram Promaster.

Replace this? Probably not. But that's not the point it seems - they've decided to use their CAFE budget on something else.

Or they can just move to a Express/Savana 2500 or higher. The price difference is almost negligible.
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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #4 on: June 16, 2014, 02:52:39 pm »


It's likely a matter of time before GM offers an Opel Movano over here.
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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #5 on: June 16, 2014, 07:13:33 pm »
Quote from: MarkStevenson on June 16, 2014, 02:38:49 pm
Quote from: mmret on June 16, 2014, 02:05:20 pm
Quote from: mixmanmash on June 16, 2014, 02:02:48 pm
Lol.  GM really thinks the Chevrolet City Express (a rebadged Nissan NV200) is going to replace this?  I think for lighter applications, sure.  But for the guys that need the bigger vans, I can see them flocking to the Ford Transit, Mercedes Benz Sprinter and Ram Promaster.

Replace this? Probably not. But that's not the point it seems - they've decided to use their CAFE budget on something else.
Or they can just move to a Express/Savana 2500 or higher. The price difference is almost negligible.

A bit of the "Law of Unintended Consequences" at work here. CAFE mandates that corporate fleets must average a certain fuel economy, except for "Heavy Duty" vehicles over 8,500 pounds. So GM dumps it's "Light Duty" work vans thus forcing potential buyers to purchase more powerful (and therefore less efficient) "Heavy Duty" versions.

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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #6 on: June 16, 2014, 08:06:14 pm »
The fact that the competition now offers modern, fuel-efficient vans that don't need 8 cylinders to do the job is pure coincidence.
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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #7 on: June 16, 2014, 10:03:20 pm »
I like the new crop of full-sized vans. However I have the mental image of the NINE PASSENGER VAN being featured in too many major fatal highway crashes.
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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #8 on: June 17, 2014, 01:31:13 pm »
My dad bought it, then I had it, very practical, horrible on gas, but I don't think I will miss seeing them on the road

It was a fun drive /w the V8 power and horrible traction :D
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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #9 on: June 17, 2014, 03:10:50 pm »
Quote from: Whofan on June 17, 2014, 01:31:13 pm
My dad bought it, then I had it, very practical, horrible on gas, but I don't think I will miss seeing them on the road

It was a fun drive /w the V8 power and horrible traction :D

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Re: GM Gives Muffled Axe To 1500 Series Express And Savana
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2014, 09:38:27 am »
The only thing of substance being lost is the AWD model which was 1500-only.
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