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More trouble...!

The new allegations that cheating extended over a longer period “reveal a culture of deeply rooted corporate arrogance, combined with a conscious disregard for the rule of law or the protection of public health and the environment,” said New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman. “Substantial penalties must be imposed on the Volkswagen companies, above and beyond the amount they have to pay to make American consumers whole.”

VW’s Audi and Porsche units, as well as their U.S. divisions, are named as defendants in the lawsuits. Maryland Attorney General Brian Frosh said penalties against the company might run into the hundreds of billions of dollars.

Michael Weinstein, a former Justice Department attorney who’s now a white-collar defense lawyer at Cole Schotz PC, said it’s likely federal prosecutors are reading the states’ complaints very closely.


http://driving.ca/volkswagen/auto-news/news/was-vws-emissions-cheat-developed-by-audi-to-reduce-engine-noise

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Will VW ever sell diesel again in NA?
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My cousin's family has a Jetta and Passat, both TDI. She bought a used 2013 GLK diesel in anticipation of some kind of settlement from VW.

Cart before horse, and not the most reliable replacement for either.


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My cousin's family has a Jetta and Passat, both TDI. She bought a used 2013 GLK diesel in anticipation of some kind of settlement from VW.

Cart before horse, and not the most reliable replacement for either.
So she hoping the money from the VWs will pay off the GLK !

Maybe she should on the underwater thread ?  ;D

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My cousin's family has a Jetta and Passat, both TDI. She bought a used 2013 GLK diesel in anticipation of some kind of settlement from VW.

Cart before horse, and not the most reliable replacement for either.
So she hoping the money from the VWs will pay off the GLK !

Maybe she should on the underwater thread ?  ;D

Both were paid off from the sounds of things. She's a full time nurse, and he's a retired Mounty. I think they'll be ok.

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Re: VW alleged to have rigged diesel engines for cleaner emissions test results
« Reply #573 on: November 07, 2016, 08:40:16 am »
So, now VW/Audi might have manipulated CO2 emissions on both diesel and gasoline engines...

http://www.wsj.com/articles/volkswagen-probe-in-germany-extended-to-chairman-1478429066

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Re: VW alleged to have rigged diesel engines for cleaner emissions test results
« Reply #574 on: November 07, 2016, 06:08:08 pm »
Oh boy! If VW did add a defeat device to their gas engines they will be done....can you imagine not being allowed to sell a single vehicle in NA because it fails emissions....

This makes me wonder if other German automakers are also cheating the system to make their cars faster but non compliant


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Re: VW alleged to have rigged diesel engines for cleaner emissions test results
« Reply #575 on: November 07, 2016, 09:33:43 pm »


Oh boy! If VW did add a defeat device to their gas engines they will be done....can you imagine not being allowed to sell a single vehicle in NA because it fails emissions....

Isn't North America only 1 or 2% of global sales?

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Re: VW alleged to have rigged diesel engines for cleaner emissions test results
« Reply #576 on: November 15, 2016, 02:23:25 pm »
now it looks like Chrysler is being sued for similar things...the emissions plot thickens.

http://www.digitaltrends.com/cars/chrysler-and-cummins-sued-over-alleged-emissions-cheating/
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