Quote from: Northernridge on February 19, 2015, 11:39:15 amQuote from: tpl on February 19, 2015, 06:05:18 amQuote from: mmret on February 19, 2015, 12:14:31 amQuote from: johngenx on February 19, 2015, 12:04:12 amBlind spot monitoring is so unnecessary - if people understood how to adjust their mirrors properly. When you leave my central rear-view you enter one of the side mirrors. When you leave the side mirrors, you enter my field of vision. Boom - no $900 per sensor gadgets needed. I've never run into anyone, never been honked at, no close calls at all - know where everyone is easily.Drive a Lambo or similar? Use you 500hp plus to "move forward" into openings and try to drive in light traffic which is way more fun anyway.Better solution, aspherical mirrors.When I had them on the CLK, coupled with the lack of a B-pillar and the rear headrests folded down, there was literally zero blindspot. You could hardly even deliberately create one with badly adjusted mirrors. I could see two lanes over in each side mirror and most days didn't have to shoulder check. I could also simultaneously see a long way rearward in the adjacent lane too. Incredible stuff really.Also had them on the Z4. That car has absolutely visibility with the top up so the mirrors turned it from abysmal to decent. Still felt like there was a nasty blind spot on the right side though, from two lanes over and slightly behind you. Just a fact of life with that thing.I have aspherical mirrors as well as the "Jim McKenzie" mirror placement which is what John's mirror placement is/was called in Ont. So I get very nearly 10 degrees of vision. I've switched to the Jim McKenzie/johngenx method since joining the forum (probably becasue John and RR were blathering on about it somewhere ) and it is the answer. The Berlin taxi has a decently functional, but unnecessary blind spot warning system and I never use it and it never goes off anyhow. McKenzie said it well – the side view mirrors are for looking at the sides.I thought he said it a bit differently.The side view mirrors are for looking out to the sides, not at the sides (of your car).
Quote from: tpl on February 19, 2015, 06:05:18 amQuote from: mmret on February 19, 2015, 12:14:31 amQuote from: johngenx on February 19, 2015, 12:04:12 amBlind spot monitoring is so unnecessary - if people understood how to adjust their mirrors properly. When you leave my central rear-view you enter one of the side mirrors. When you leave the side mirrors, you enter my field of vision. Boom - no $900 per sensor gadgets needed. I've never run into anyone, never been honked at, no close calls at all - know where everyone is easily.Drive a Lambo or similar? Use you 500hp plus to "move forward" into openings and try to drive in light traffic which is way more fun anyway.Better solution, aspherical mirrors.When I had them on the CLK, coupled with the lack of a B-pillar and the rear headrests folded down, there was literally zero blindspot. You could hardly even deliberately create one with badly adjusted mirrors. I could see two lanes over in each side mirror and most days didn't have to shoulder check. I could also simultaneously see a long way rearward in the adjacent lane too. Incredible stuff really.Also had them on the Z4. That car has absolutely visibility with the top up so the mirrors turned it from abysmal to decent. Still felt like there was a nasty blind spot on the right side though, from two lanes over and slightly behind you. Just a fact of life with that thing.I have aspherical mirrors as well as the "Jim McKenzie" mirror placement which is what John's mirror placement is/was called in Ont. So I get very nearly 10 degrees of vision. I've switched to the Jim McKenzie/johngenx method since joining the forum (probably becasue John and RR were blathering on about it somewhere ) and it is the answer. The Berlin taxi has a decently functional, but unnecessary blind spot warning system and I never use it and it never goes off anyhow. McKenzie said it well – the side view mirrors are for looking at the sides.
Quote from: mmret on February 19, 2015, 12:14:31 amQuote from: johngenx on February 19, 2015, 12:04:12 amBlind spot monitoring is so unnecessary - if people understood how to adjust their mirrors properly. When you leave my central rear-view you enter one of the side mirrors. When you leave the side mirrors, you enter my field of vision. Boom - no $900 per sensor gadgets needed. I've never run into anyone, never been honked at, no close calls at all - know where everyone is easily.Drive a Lambo or similar? Use you 500hp plus to "move forward" into openings and try to drive in light traffic which is way more fun anyway.Better solution, aspherical mirrors.When I had them on the CLK, coupled with the lack of a B-pillar and the rear headrests folded down, there was literally zero blindspot. You could hardly even deliberately create one with badly adjusted mirrors. I could see two lanes over in each side mirror and most days didn't have to shoulder check. I could also simultaneously see a long way rearward in the adjacent lane too. Incredible stuff really.Also had them on the Z4. That car has absolutely visibility with the top up so the mirrors turned it from abysmal to decent. Still felt like there was a nasty blind spot on the right side though, from two lanes over and slightly behind you. Just a fact of life with that thing.I have aspherical mirrors as well as the "Jim McKenzie" mirror placement which is what John's mirror placement is/was called in Ont. So I get very nearly 10 degrees of vision.
Quote from: johngenx on February 19, 2015, 12:04:12 amBlind spot monitoring is so unnecessary - if people understood how to adjust their mirrors properly. When you leave my central rear-view you enter one of the side mirrors. When you leave the side mirrors, you enter my field of vision. Boom - no $900 per sensor gadgets needed. I've never run into anyone, never been honked at, no close calls at all - know where everyone is easily.Drive a Lambo or similar? Use you 500hp plus to "move forward" into openings and try to drive in light traffic which is way more fun anyway.Better solution, aspherical mirrors.When I had them on the CLK, coupled with the lack of a B-pillar and the rear headrests folded down, there was literally zero blindspot. You could hardly even deliberately create one with badly adjusted mirrors. I could see two lanes over in each side mirror and most days didn't have to shoulder check. I could also simultaneously see a long way rearward in the adjacent lane too. Incredible stuff really.Also had them on the Z4. That car has absolutely visibility with the top up so the mirrors turned it from abysmal to decent. Still felt like there was a nasty blind spot on the right side though, from two lanes over and slightly behind you. Just a fact of life with that thing.
Blind spot monitoring is so unnecessary - if people understood how to adjust their mirrors properly. When you leave my central rear-view you enter one of the side mirrors. When you leave the side mirrors, you enter my field of vision. Boom - no $900 per sensor gadgets needed. I've never run into anyone, never been honked at, no close calls at all - know where everyone is easily.Drive a Lambo or similar? Use you 500hp plus to "move forward" into openings and try to drive in light traffic which is way more fun anyway.
Quote from: tpl on February 19, 2015, 11:44:57 amQuote from: Northernridge on February 19, 2015, 11:39:15 amQuote from: tpl on February 19, 2015, 06:05:18 amQuote from: mmret on February 19, 2015, 12:14:31 amQuote from: johngenx on February 19, 2015, 12:04:12 amBlind spot monitoring is so unnecessary - if people understood how to adjust their mirrors properly. When you leave my central rear-view you enter one of the side mirrors. When you leave the side mirrors, you enter my field of vision. Boom - no $900 per sensor gadgets needed. I've never run into anyone, never been honked at, no close calls at all - know where everyone is easily.Drive a Lambo or similar? Use you 500hp plus to "move forward" into openings and try to drive in light traffic which is way more fun anyway.Better solution, aspherical mirrors.When I had them on the CLK, coupled with the lack of a B-pillar and the rear headrests folded down, there was literally zero blindspot. You could hardly even deliberately create one with badly adjusted mirrors. I could see two lanes over in each side mirror and most days didn't have to shoulder check. I could also simultaneously see a long way rearward in the adjacent lane too. Incredible stuff really.Also had them on the Z4. That car has absolutely visibility with the top up so the mirrors turned it from abysmal to decent. Still felt like there was a nasty blind spot on the right side though, from two lanes over and slightly behind you. Just a fact of life with that thing.I have aspherical mirrors as well as the "Jim McKenzie" mirror placement which is what John's mirror placement is/was called in Ont. So I get very nearly 10 degrees of vision. I've switched to the Jim McKenzie/johngenx method since joining the forum (probably becasue John and RR were blathering on about it somewhere ) and it is the answer. The Berlin taxi has a decently functional, but unnecessary blind spot warning system and I never use it and it never goes off anyhow. McKenzie said it well – the side view mirrors are for looking at the sides.I thought he said it a bit differently.The side view mirrors are for looking out to the sides, not at the sides (of your car).A most helpful clarification.
My issue with flat mirrors adjusted as per that method is that Yo cannot see down the lane very well. You need to use rearview but often that can be blocked, ie just having a bunch of rear passengers.
