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Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« on: August 07, 2018, 03:04:56 pm »
Tesla needed to raise capital (they have massive debt that is due shortly)...but instead it looks like the company will be sold. If someone else runs the company (Musk owns 20 percent) this would likely be the best thing for the company.

Will be interesting to see if it will be foreign owned.

EDIT: No American Wall Street bank said they were contacted for financing or any deal. Sounds like Tesla is going foreign?

https://money.cnn.com/2018/08/07/news/companies/elon-musk-tesla-private/index.html
« Last Edit: August 07, 2018, 03:29:29 pm by rrocket »
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2018, 04:09:32 pm »
Saudi Arabia financing. Seem like they are willing to offer $420/share to make it a private company.

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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2018, 04:44:25 pm »
Saudi Arabia financing.

Oh, the irony!  Musk always railing against "big oil".....and who does he sell to?  The BIGGEST oil!!  ::) OMG....even in selling his company he manages to look like a buffoon....

So every Tesla sold will be financing a country who's only real export is fossil fuel.   :rofl: :rofl2:

You can't make this :censor: up!

I can't wait to hear how the Tesla slappies will try and spin this one as a positive.   :rofl: :rofl2:
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2018, 04:49:07 pm »
This has the same stench as when Shell, Goodyear, and General Motors bought up a lot of streetcar systems across North America then dismantled them.

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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2018, 05:49:28 pm »
Are the Saudis buying Tesla just to shut it down to protect their oil?

Tesla is no threat to Saudi oil.... ::)

Either way..this is hilarious!!  I just can't wait to hear the positive spin put on this....Big oil owning Tesla.   :rofl: :rofl2:
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2018, 07:20:37 pm »
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2018, 09:01:28 pm »
Maybe the Saudis have seen the upcoming EV revolution and want to be a part of it. If EV become mainstream gas demand will probably fall 20-30%. They probably have stake in other auto manufacturers (not sure though). Its like warren buffet having apple stock. They saw the future and thought it is worth investing... OR maybe they really want to kill Tesla and slow down EV adaption.. we will see...

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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2018, 09:07:58 pm »
Maybe the Saudis have seen the upcoming EV revolution and want to be a part of it. If EV become mainstream gas demand will probably fall 20-30%. They probably have stake in other auto manufacturers (not sure though). Its like warren buffet having apple stock. They saw the future and thought it is worth investing... OR maybe they really want to kill Tesla and slow down EV adaption.. we will see...

But then every Tesla sold will line the pocket of Big Oil anyways....does that make any sense?  That is, in no way, shape or form, no matter how you try and spin it, was Musk's vision.

I mean.....If I heard China was buying Tesla, I'd not be surprised.  If I heard a an Equity Fund or some Hedge fund bazillionaire was buying Tesla...I'd not be surprised.  But the Saudis??

It's official...Musk has officially sold out....and anyone who buy a Tesla from here on in has sold out to big oil too.  And that's even before we talk about the other garbage points about that country.
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2018, 09:19:27 pm »
Saudi buying a piece of Tesla makes sense.

They are far over weight on oil and this gives them a win if Tesla and electric cars take off.  They are hedging.
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2018, 09:26:10 pm »
Maybe it is "wishful thinking" from myself  but if Tesla effectively to be sold, i wish they will do to an "entity" with real environnemental faith & conscience and act accordingly...
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2018, 09:28:12 pm »
Maybe it is "wishful thinking" from myself  but if Tesla effectively to be sold, i wish they will do to a "entity" with real environnemental faith & conscience and act accordingly...

This is precisely what I'm saying.

Why sell to big oil of all people??

Let's expand on this:  If Elon is to be believed, there's 30% profit margin available on his cars.  You buy a $100K Tesla, and you've just made a $30K deposit into the bank account of big oil. DIRECTLY.   DOES THIS MAKE ANY SENSE AT ALL given Musk's (and his followers) vision??
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2018, 09:45:46 pm »
It's not their fault.....Musk is the sell out, man.

PT Barnum....

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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2018, 09:54:36 pm »
It's not their fault.....Musk is the sell out, man.

PT Barnum....

His shareholders don't give a sh!t about who buys the company for as long as they get to profit. But yeah, it's altimately his massive ego that ran Tesla so far into the red as to leave it no better choices. I just hope saudis don't kill it because you know, it won't take them long to sell that many billions worth of oil when its price spikes on the news.
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2018, 10:02:43 pm »
Amazing.  And predictable.  The company was hemorrhaging cash like no tomorrow.  Either a a huge new raise had to be done, a huge take on of debt, or a sale.

The last option keeps shares from being diluted to hell.

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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2018, 10:16:26 pm »
Apparently, Tesla needs desperately for the stock price to be over $360

Why $360

Why is $360 the magical level? That’s the conversion price for $920 million of convertible debt due on March 1, 2019 (indenture). If the stock price does not cross $360, the company will have to repay bondholders with cash instead of shares. A quick glance at the balance sheet would tell us that the company could afford this payment at present as the company had $$2.24 billion in cash at the end of Q2. However, we must also take future capital investments and the ongoing operational cash burn into account.

The company decreased its 2018 capex guidance in Q2 to under $2.5 billion. Having spent $1.27 billion thus far, the company would likely have to spend another $1.2 billion in 2018. That leaves ~$1 billion cash on the balance sheet at the end of the year before any incremental capital investment (more on this later) or any cash outflow from operations. If we stop there, perhaps the $920 million bond won’t be a big concern, but can you trust the management’s promise about becoming cash flow positive?

Both Musk and the CFO have assured investors that the company will be cash flow positive in the coming quarters, and even claimed that they will be paying off the $920 million with “internally generated cash flow,” implying that Tesla could actually make $920 million over the next several months.

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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2018, 01:45:09 pm »
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2018, 02:11:14 pm »
Booth didn't post a link to the video?

The only one with any views was originally posted in 2013, and not made by anyone associated with Tesla as far as I can see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkvYvk8vxuw
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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2018, 02:13:00 pm »
Booth didn't post a link to the video?

The only one with any views was originally posted in 2013, and not made by anyone associated with Tesla as far as I can see.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkvYvk8vxuw

The video is in Musk's twitter feed as far as I can tell. I can't stream it here are work though.

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Re: Sounds like Tesla will be sold..
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2018, 02:39:32 pm »
Here's the one Musk re-tweeted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxEClGh6Mus

I don't particularly care one way or the other. Plenty of egomaniacal rockstar CEOs have come and gone. Some were successful, some were disastrous. Musk, so far has racked up a lot of accomplishments in a fairly short time. I don't think I'd bet against him. Of course I wouldn't invest in him either.