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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2018, 06:49:52 am »
Some day our children will rebel against us by wanting sedans.  I look forward to it.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2018, 09:25:16 am »
Some day our children will rebel against us by wanting sedans.  I look forward to it.

And the ghost of David Bowie will respond:    :rofl2: :rofl2:

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2018, 09:26:29 am »
Some day our children will rebel against us by wanting sedans.  I look forward to it.

Our children will be driven around in electric pods you fool!

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2018, 09:44:43 am »
Sad!

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2018, 09:52:06 am »
Look on the bright side. There could be some silver linings here.

- More hatchbacks / mini CUVs (which are basically hatches...). Something like a VW Golf. This is a pretty sensible format for your "default basic car" vs a sedan IMHO.

- The sedan itself will probably remain as a prestige format. Think S-Class etc. Its going to be a high-dollar thing now with 2-box machines taking up the mainstream. I also don't think certain "iconic" sport sedans will go away, such as the 3 Series, but I could see Audi canning the A4 some day, with buyers meant to take up the Q5 or S4 depending on taste.

- The selection of CUVs will expand again to cover at least in part what was lost with the death of the mainstream sedan.


Those who lose in this are people buying a mainstream sedan as a compromise between practicality, driving dynamics, and cost. Basically the people who bought a V6 Altima or Accord etc - dads who want to keep some vaguely interesting drive. But that apparently a shrinking market.
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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2018, 09:54:30 am »
Didn't they just come out with a new Focus and Fiesta (which at the moment is not in NA)? 

It's sad but to be honest I'm not a huge fan of their sedans over the past 20 years anyway.  Sure the current SHO and Fusion Sport are somewhat fun but in the volume models they're just boring. 

As long as they continue to offer a Mustang, with a V8 and stick I'll keep Ford on my list of manufacturers I'm insterested in.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2018, 10:06:18 am »
Apparently the U.S. is only getting the Focus Active and not the regular hatch or sedan.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2018, 10:18:58 am »
At last everyone sees the light. Warm ski boots for everyone.


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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2018, 10:23:39 am »
At last everyone sees the light. Warm ski boots for everyone.

Right?  I think that's third in my top reasons for getting a hatch.  #1 is practicality, #2 is looks.
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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2018, 10:24:43 am »
Some day our children will rebel against us by wanting sedans.  I look forward to it.

Our children will be driven around in electric pods you fool!

Hope springs eternal.

I dunno.  Genesis only does sedans and Ford now says it will only not do sedans.  Who knows.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2018, 10:36:47 am »
I do wonder if escalating fuel costs will drive people back into sedans, catching Ford with their pants down.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2018, 10:37:47 am »
I dunno.  Genesis only does sedans and Ford now says it will only not do sedans.  Who knows.

Genesis CUVs are coming.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2018, 10:38:21 am »
I do wonder if escalating fuel costs will drive people back into sedans, catching Ford with their pants down.

I think there'll be swing back to more efficient vehicles as gas prices rise.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2018, 10:45:56 am »

all my ranting and frothing of "the end is nigh!" doesn't seem so crazy now does it?
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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2018, 11:19:13 am »

all my ranting and frothing of "the end is nigh!" doesn't seem so crazy now does it?

I don't see a problem  ;D

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #16 on: April 26, 2018, 12:09:03 pm »
I do wonder if escalating fuel costs will drive people back into sedans, catching Ford with their pants down.

The company has said every new Ford or Lincoln vehicle introduced over the next two years will have either a hybrid or plug-in hybrid engine option, which should buffer against rising gas prices as the vehicles get bigger, according to Hackett and Jim Farley, Ford president of global markets.
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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #17 on: April 26, 2018, 12:11:59 pm »
Apparently the U.S. is only getting the Focus Active and not the regular hatch or sedan.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #18 on: April 26, 2018, 12:19:13 pm »
I dunno.  Genesis only does sedans and Ford now says it will only not do sedans.  Who knows.

Genesis CUVs are coming.

Yup.  Those were announced from day one.

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Re: Ford Getting Out of the Sedan Business
« Reply #19 on: April 26, 2018, 12:27:26 pm »
This isn't surprising at all, add some plastic cladding, 1" lift and some sort of pseudo active name to a hatchback and people will line up for weeks to buy it.
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