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Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« on: March 06, 2014, 06:28:12 am »


Infiniti's hybridized family hauler offers a reasonable dose of extra efficiency and a great big helping of additional standard equipment.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2014, 08:12:44 am »
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The official city/highway numbers are 7.6 / 6.9 L/100 km for the Hybrid, 10.9 / 7.8 for the V6 AWD, and 10.5 / 7.6 for the V6 FWD, although as with any current Transport Canada ratings, you can expect your real-world consumption to be somewhat higher. My best result in mostly urban driving was about 12.5 L/100 km, which is roughly 25 percent better than I managed last year in the JX35.

Sure its a small sample size but how the heck can TC numbers be so incredibly, wildly off?

I'm not expecting them to be perfect numbers but Ln( 12.5 / 7.6 ) = 50% difference.
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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #2 on: March 06, 2014, 10:05:01 am »
I still have to look at the pictures to figure out which Infinitis are which...ah I see, the QX60 mini-van/CUV thing...in a hybrid. Looks nice.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #3 on: March 06, 2014, 10:10:38 am »
My neighbors been having problems with his. He doesnt have the hybrid but he had weird issues with the CVT and a bunch of warning lights about the awd/traction control. Not a bad looking thing though.....
Lighten up Francis.....

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #4 on: March 06, 2014, 10:12:04 am »
I still have to look at the pictures to figure out which Infinitis are which...ah I see, the QX60 mini-van/CUV thing...in a hybrid. Looks nice.

Same here. It's a stupid naming convention.
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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2014, 10:21:56 am »
I still have to look at the pictures to figure out which Infinitis are which...ah I see, the QX60 mini-van/CUV thing...in a hybrid. Looks nice.
what the difference between this and a Pathfinder ?

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2014, 10:22:40 am »
I still have to look at the pictures to figure out which Infinitis are which...ah I see, the QX60 mini-van/CUV thing...in a hybrid. Looks nice.
what the difference between this and a Pathfinder ?

About $20k  ;D

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2014, 10:26:10 am »
I still have to look at the pictures to figure out which Infinitis are which...ah I see, the QX60 mini-van/CUV thing...in a hybrid. Looks nice.
what the difference between this and a Pathfinder ?

About $20k  ;D

And that cool purple metallic colour.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2014, 11:40:56 am »
I still have to look at the pictures to figure out which Infinitis are which...ah I see, the QX60 mini-van/CUV thing...in a hybrid. Looks nice.
what the difference between this and a Pathfinder ?

About $20k  ;D

Apparently the transmissions are different.  The Pathfinder gets the tougher CVT...  Which also has issues.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2014, 12:26:06 pm »
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The official city/highway numbers are 7.6 / 6.9 L/100 km for the Hybrid, 10.9 / 7.8 for the V6 AWD, and 10.5 / 7.6 for the V6 FWD, although as with any current Transport Canada ratings, you can expect your real-world consumption to be somewhat higher. My best result in mostly urban driving was about 12.5 L/100 km, which is roughly 25 percent better than I managed last year in the JX35.

Sure its a small sample size but how the heck can TC numbers be so incredibly, wildly off?

I'm not expecting them to be perfect numbers but Ln( 12.5 / 7.6 ) = 50% difference.

I think it largely has to to with how many short-hop drives you make, and how well the engine manages fuel consumption when stone cold.

TC's city cycle is a 31 minute drive covering 17.8 km with 23 stops. The engine is only cold for about the first five minutes of this.

But if you actually LIVE in the city, rather than just drive through it, then a typical drive sees you running round trips of 3 to 5 km and under 15 minutes, often with a stop in the middle (to attend the school concert, or purchase the groceries) so the car is essentially running cold the whole time.

Keep an eye on your instant economy readout next time you're driving with the car stone cold, and you'll likely find that it's up around 18 L/100km for the first couple of km -- it just kills your economy.

Still, some cars are better than others at maintaining efficiency when cold. Generally speaking, smaller engines have a double advantage because not only are they more inherently economical to start with, but they also tend to warm up more quickly simply because there's less mass of cold metal there.

In the meantime, TC is expanding its testing regime for 2015 models to include three additional driving cycles: "hard acceleration/fast driving", "highway drive with air conditioning," and "cold weather city drive." The latter lowers the ambient temperature to -7 Celcius, but it's still a half-hour steady run in the city. I'd love to see them add a "short-hop" cycle that runs the car from stone cold for 3.5 km, lets it cool for 45 minutes, then runs a further 5 km, lets it cool for three hours, then another 4 km, cool for 1.5 hours, then 3.5 km home, all in stop-and-go conditions with the outside temperature at 4 degrees Celcius and the air pregnant with pelting cold rain. I bet my real-world economy would then fall right in line with the official ratings.
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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2014, 02:40:35 pm »
I feel the need to say this:

I think the Porsche Macan S is a better deal :P

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2014, 04:16:46 pm »
So my brother finally made his decision that to replace his Rogue, he's financing a 2014 QX60 AWD Premium Package.  I still think he should get a minivan, but he wants a $50k minivan in CUV packaging (a MUV?).

...anyone subscribe to Consumer Reports wanna find out the "bottom line" price?

...or better yet, anyone work for Nissan and wanna suggest what the best price we could hope for would be?

Since he's trading in the Nissan for an Infiniti, he qualifies for the 'loyalty' discount off financing APR.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2014, 04:50:43 pm »
So my brother finally made his decision that to replace his Rogue, he's financing a 2014 QX60 AWD Premium Package.  I still think he should get a minivan, but he wants a $50k minivan in CUV packaging (a MUV?).

...anyone subscribe to Consumer Reports wanna find out the "bottom line" price?

...or better yet, anyone work for Nissan and wanna suggest what the best price we could hope for would be?

Since he's trading in the Nissan for an Infiniti, he qualifies for the 'loyalty' discount off financing APR.
Does consumer report have Canadian pricing?
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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2014, 05:55:05 pm »
So my brother finally made his decision that to replace his Rogue, he's financing a 2014 QX60 AWD Premium Package.  I still think he should get a minivan, but he wants a $50k minivan in CUV packaging (a MUV?).

...anyone subscribe to Consumer Reports wanna find out the "bottom line" price?

...or better yet, anyone work for Nissan and wanna suggest what the best price we could hope for would be?

Since he's trading in the Nissan for an Infiniti, he qualifies for the 'loyalty' discount off financing APR.

Subscribe to carscostcanada.com.  Best way to get what their cost is and what incentives are currently at play (even "dealer" only incentives).  Negotiate based on their cost + 3-5%.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2014, 09:44:25 am »
:P was hoping to avoid paying $40 to find out.

He testdrove the MDX, GL, and all available minivans and decided that the QX60 is right - I was hoping to save him $10,000 by getting a loaded Pathfinder, but he seems to like the 'luxury', so let him enjoy...but he's still going to complain about the cost.  *sigh*

He has 2 kids and another on the way, so he does need the bigger vehicle, and the trick folding 2nd row in the Pathfinder/JX (QX, whatever) works well for him.

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2014, 02:04:46 pm »
:P was hoping to avoid paying $40 to find out.

He testdrove the MDX, GL, and all available minivans and decided that the QX60 is right - I was hoping to save him $10,000 by getting a loaded Pathfinder, but he seems to like the 'luxury', so let him enjoy...but he's still going to complain about the cost.  *sigh*

He has 2 kids and another on the way, so he does need the bigger vehicle, and the trick folding 2nd row in the Pathfinder/JX (QX, whatever) works well for him.

$40 dollars to save thousands sounds like a good deal.  Stop being a cheapskate :P

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Re: Test Drive: 2014 Infiniti QX60 Hybrid
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2014, 09:31:10 am »
Stop being a cheapskate :P
NEVER!!!  ;D