Topic: 2022 F-150 Lightning

[rrocket]

I would argue that if you're a tradesperson it makes a lot more sense to buy a less expensive van or truck than it does a $100,000 lightening to be running around for business.

That's when a serious ROI is required.

[Guy]

Well the $61K version probably makes more sense for a tradesperson.

[PJungnitsch]

Well the $61K version probably makes more sense for a tradesperson.

Yeah, being as a base F150 starts at around 50k, upgrading to a Lightning for around town work might seem pretty reasonable with no gas to buy or ecoburst engine to worry about

[Guy]

And that price is before subsidies.

[ArticSteve]

Well the $61K version probably makes more sense for a tradesperson.

Yeah, being as a base F150 starts at around 50k, upgrading to a Lightning for around town work might seem pretty reasonable with no gas to buy or ecoburst engine to worry about

Light Trades drive vans.  The Trades that require pickups use F250s as they tow heavy dual axle trailers.     

[bye]

Math : 4000 km road trip.   1600 km of that is towing.   30 days for the trip.     <150 km per day.

Total time spent "waiting" for a charge = 0 hours and 0 minutes.   
Reason : We eat lunch/dinner, and we charge overnight while staying in hotels and camping.

I've done >30000 km in RV's, majority of the time I am waiting for the kids to eat or download stuff on the free wifi at rest stops prior to continuing journey.   
I have more than a enough time in the seat of 20000 lb vehicles to know that I don't enjoy $500 daily gas stops.

Total charging cost estimate is $200 for the high speed charging through Ontario and Quebec.
Estimate for gas is $1500 for the same trip.

If you aren't retired, I guess you can stick with gas, that's what I did.  Now, I'd rather drive in quiet powerful comfort.

[Allen]

I've been retired for 9 years and wouldn't touch an EV

[revalations]

I've been retired for 9 years and wouldn't touch an EV

Spending $100k plus for truck and trailer and counting the dollars you’ll save on gas. All while enjoying retirement trips just150 km at a time just so you don’t have to pay a dime for travel. I get it, I guess, maybe..🤔

I’ll spend my extra time on the golf course spending more of my kids inheritance. YMMV as in every EV vs ICE debate.

[bridgecity]

Bye, what’s your range while towing with a lightning?  You say you never wait for a charge because you eat. You must eat a lot.

I would generally be very interested in your user experience, but it constantly wreaks of . I just can’t believe anything you say.

[Gurgie]

Bye, what’s your range while towing with a lightning?  You say you never wait for a charge because you eat. You must eat a lot.

I would generally be very interested in your user experience, but it constantly wreaks of . I just can’t believe anything you say.

He's gonna stop to eat every hour & a half because the Lightning is so powerful & he'll be cruising at 130km/hr... that's giving a generous range of 195km on EV.

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[revalations]

Bye, what’s your range while towing with a lightning?  You say you never wait for a charge because you eat. You must eat a lot.

I would generally be very interested in your user experience, but it constantly wreaks of . I just can’t believe anything you say.

He's gonna stop to eat every hour & a half because the Lightning is so powerful & he'll be cruising at 130km/hr... that's giving a generous range of 195km on EV.

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195 km range at 130 is very generous. But since he’s only charging at campsites and not at very expensive charging stations, it leads me to believe he’s only travelling as far as his initial charge allows.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Bye, what’s your range while towing with a lightning?  You say you never wait for a charge because you eat. You must eat a lot.

I would generally be very interested in your user experience, but it constantly wreaks of . I just can’t believe anything you say.

He's gonna stop to eat every hour & a half because the Lightning is so powerful & he'll be cruising at 130km/hr... that's giving a generous range of 195km on EV.

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195 km range at 130 is very generous. But since he’s only charging at campsites and not at very expensive charging stations, it leads me to believe he’s only travelling as far as his initial charge allows.

LOL, charging at campsites.  Good luck with that.  Campsites are all 120V.  It'll take six days to charge your battery from empty to full. 

[Firm]

Bye, what’s your range while towing with a lightning?  You say you never wait for a charge because you eat. You must eat a lot.

I would generally be very interested in your user experience, but it constantly wreaks of . I just can’t believe anything you say.

He's gonna stop to eat every hour & a half because the Lightning is so powerful & he'll be cruising at 130km/hr... that's giving a generous range of 195km on EV.

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195 km range at 130 is very generous. But since he’s only charging at campsites and not at very expensive charging stations, it leads me to believe he’s only travelling as far as his initial charge allows.

LOL, charging at campsites.  Good luck with that.  Campsites are all 120V.  It'll take six days to charge your battery from empty to full.

I was going to say.....Seems like that's a big issue, unless  you're going to stop at campsites ever 100kms and sit there for a day or two waiting for it to charge.

[Hannibalsmith]

Are you guys not tired of beating on this guy?

How about we just see what his experience is like for his use case? And leave it at that.

[Great_Big_Abyss]

Are you guys not tired of beating on this guy?

How about we just see what his experience is like for his use case? And leave it at that.

Because he's full of sh!t, and he won't be relaying his true experience anyway.  Guys like this lie through their teeth to support their confirmation bias. 

[Hannibalsmith]

Are you guys not tired of beating on this guy?

How about we just see what his experience is like for his use case? And leave it at that.

Because he's full of sh!t, and he won't be relaying his true experience anyway.  Guys like this lie through their teeth to support their confirmation bias.

I guess. You make it sound like he's some sort of hardened criminal. I read the posts as well. Sounds like an over enthusiastic car owner...

[tortoise]

Thie biggest issue with the Lightning is people claiming because it won't work for them, it won't work for anybody.

Horses for courses, and all that.

If someone tows a handful of times a year and doesn't mind the extra stops, more power to them. That's a trade off I'd make to have an entirely usable electric truck the rest of the year.

[Gurgie]

The biggest issue is the preaching... saving money somehow after purchasing a $90k truck.

I'm all for the early adopters & blazing a trail, but I don't need to hear that it's the best thing since sliced bread. Especially in the case of the Lightning where it's been proven that it's not a good long distance tow rig.

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[bye]

   Campsites are all 120V.  It'll take six days to charge your battery from empty to full.

^ ignorant.  This thread is discussing advanced topics like real life usage of a truck to tow a trailer to campsites, if you don't have anything of use to add, perhaps just read and don't post.

I have 30000 km of RV'ing in massive 20000 lb rigs with 50 amp hookups for 2 air conditioners.

Here's a simple way to look for 50 amp sites, click on hookups filter and choose 50 amps (240 volts).   
https://campgrounds.rvlife.com/regions/nova-scotia#/

[bye]

gonna stop to eat every hour & a half because the Lightning is so powerful & he'll be cruising at 130km/hr

When towing a 27' 8000 lb trailer or when driving a 20000 lb RV, I drive the speed limit, always.   
Braking distance and lateral control at speed are all elements critical to safety especially when driving on non-divided roads with the dangers of oncoming passing traffic.

See examples of gas F150 drivers who outline their towing experiences.
https://www.f150forum.com/f82/what-safe-towing-speed-524144/