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2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« on: November 07, 2023, 01:14:50 am »
Finally, someone built a EV truck I’d own, unlimited range! (Thanks to a gas engine of course) The New L6 ain’t bad either.

https://www.autoblog.com/2023/11/07/2025-ram-1500-adds-unlimited-range-ramcharger-ev-and-hurricane-i6-power/

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #1 on: November 07, 2023, 07:58:28 am »
Interesting concept and a slap in the face to the Lightning.

Odd that they didn't mention the range in EV mode.
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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #2 on: November 07, 2023, 08:21:31 am »
Interesting concept and a slap in the face to the Lightning.

Odd that they didn't mention the range in EV mode.

145 miles

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1141313_2025-ram-1500-ramcharger-channels-chevy-volt-tech

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #3 on: November 07, 2023, 09:13:51 am »
Interesting concept.. I guess the price will determine if it is a success or not.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #4 on: November 07, 2023, 09:28:37 am »
Unlimited? Don't think so.  :shake:

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #5 on: November 07, 2023, 09:35:30 am »
Looks like a great idea! Especially for trucks that get used a lot in rural areas.

GM management, go slap yourselves

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #6 on: November 07, 2023, 10:02:17 am »
Of course, the big question will be reliability.  $100k for a Stellantis product with unproven tech is heartburn inducing, personally.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #7 on: November 07, 2023, 10:24:05 am »
I am glad that they are using the tried and tested, port injected NA 3.6 Pentastar as the generator. Stellantis should transplant this drivetrain into their large SUVs, Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer to make them a real alternative to the GM three.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2023, 10:42:06 am »
Interesting concept.. I guess the price will determine if it is a success or not.
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The EV full size truck competition is expensive, I’d bet this is too. A little over $100k to start is my guess. When it comes to saving on fuel, people don’t seem to mind spending $20-30,000 up front over a ICE equivalent. I’m betting this will be a hit.

 While id probably never consider a full EV truck, this one hits the target. 145 miles of pure electric range is more than enough, and with the “generator” on-board we’re set to travel or tow like a ICE truck. As far as reliability, we’ll, that’s debatable. We know the pentastar is a proven engine, and what could possibly go wrong with all the EV stuff? Thought that was as reliable no matter what….

In the end, great job Stelantis team for the first truly no compromise EV truck.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #9 on: November 07, 2023, 11:17:05 am »
Looks like a success on paper, however with the likely steep price for the generator model I don't know that they'll sell a ton of them.  A couple of things that came to mind when reading the article:

  • 0-60 in 4.4 seconds.  Nuts for a full size pickup, especially with the weight of this thing.  Just thinking of all the bros driving around with that much power on tap :)
  • A V6 for a generator, seems excessive, but I don't really know, and obviously they would know better. They likely just used it because its already available.
  • New turbo engines by Stellantis.  Yay. 
« Last Edit: November 07, 2023, 11:20:41 am by bridgecity »
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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #10 on: November 07, 2023, 11:51:23 am »
Unlimited? Don't think so.  :shake:
700 mile EV is also quite the misnomer.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #11 on: November 07, 2023, 01:00:15 pm »
I haven't yet check the RAM with Pentastar 130kW generator (EV range extender) specs, is it the same as the actual Pacifica Hybrid?

Update, fact check: No, not the same power rating, Pacifica PHEV has a 63kW motor-generator.
https://www.wardsauto.com/2017/2017-winner-chrysler-pacifica-36l-atkinson-v-6dual-motor-phev
« Last Edit: November 07, 2023, 07:41:43 pm by me_2 »
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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #12 on: November 07, 2023, 01:33:20 pm »
To get even better efficiency and range Stellantis should replace the gasoline V6 with a smaller displacement inline 4 diesel from their Alfa Romeo european lineup. It's the same concept as a diesel electric locomotive, better efficiency and superior control of NOX and CO2 since the diesel can operate at constant rpms.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #13 on: November 07, 2023, 02:55:40 pm »
I wanna see that straight 6 turbo in the Grand Cherokee please.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #14 on: November 07, 2023, 03:36:54 pm »
Looks like a success on paper, however with the likely steep price for the generator model I don't know that they'll sell a ton of them.  A couple of things that came to mind when reading the article:

  • 0-60 in 4.4 seconds.  Nuts for a full size pickup, especially with the weight of this thing.  Just thinking of all the bros driving around with that much power on tap :)
  • A V6 for a generator, seems excessive, but I don't really know, and obviously they would know better. They likely just used it because its already available.
  • New turbo engines by Stellantis.  Yay. 

This is 100% where I'm at. The idea is spectacular, this makes WAYYYY more sense than all that EV crap, but its a Ram. They sold the Cummins with a bad transmission for decades, the Hemi had a tick problem with its lifters for ages, plus never mind the electrical issues thats a standard in all Chrysler vehicles, plus how garbage that italian Eco diesel was....$100k is a lot to roll the dice on a company like this.
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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #15 on: November 07, 2023, 03:42:01 pm »
Looks like a success on paper, however with the likely steep price for the generator model I don't know that they'll sell a ton of them.  A couple of things that came to mind when reading the article:

  • 0-60 in 4.4 seconds.  Nuts for a full size pickup, especially with the weight of this thing.  Just thinking of all the bros driving around with that much power on tap :)
  • A V6 for a generator, seems excessive, but I don't really know, and obviously they would know better. They likely just used it because its already available.
  • New turbo engines by Stellantis.  Yay. 

This is 100% where I'm at. The idea is spectacular, this makes WAYYYY more sense than all that EV crap, but its a Ram. They sold the Cummins with a bad transmission for decades, the Hemi had a tick problem with its lifters for ages, plus never mind the electrical issues thats a standard in all Chrysler vehicles, plus how garbage that italian Eco diesel was....$100k is a lot to roll the dice on a company like this.

If you don't like the company they are right now, wait a minute - they'll get sold to new owners and be an entirely new company.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #16 on: November 07, 2023, 03:51:46 pm »
Looks like a success on paper, however with the likely steep price for the generator model I don't know that they'll sell a ton of them.  A couple of things that came to mind when reading the article:

  • 0-60 in 4.4 seconds.  Nuts for a full size pickup, especially with the weight of this thing.  Just thinking of all the bros driving around with that much power on tap :)
  • A V6 for a generator, seems excessive, but I don't really know, and obviously they would know better. They likely just used it because its already available.
  • New turbo engines by Stellantis.  Yay. 

This is 100% where I'm at. The idea is spectacular, this makes WAYYYY more sense than all that EV crap, but its a Ram. They sold the Cummins with a bad transmission for decades, the Hemi had a tick problem with its lifters for ages, plus never mind the electrical issues thats a standard in all Chrysler vehicles, plus how garbage that italian Eco diesel was....$100k is a lot to roll the dice on a company like this.

If you don't like the company they are right now, wait a minute - they'll get sold to new owners and be an entirely new company.

Yes, because Benz, Fiat and Stelantis or whatever have really turned them around.....  ::) ::)

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #17 on: November 07, 2023, 06:51:11 pm »
Looks like a success on paper, however with the likely steep price for the generator model I don't know that they'll sell a ton of them.  A couple of things that came to mind when reading the article:

  • 0-60 in 4.4 seconds.  Nuts for a full size pickup, especially with the weight of this thing.  Just thinking of all the bros driving around with that much power on tap :)
  • A V6 for a generator, seems excessive, but I don't really know, and obviously they would know better. They likely just used it because its already available.
  • New turbo engines by Stellantis.  Yay. 

This is 100% where I'm at. The idea is spectacular, this makes WAYYYY more sense than all that EV crap, but its a Ram. They sold the Cummins with a bad transmission for decades, the Hemi had a tick problem with its lifters for ages, plus never mind the electrical issues thats a standard in all Chrysler vehicles, plus how garbage that italian Eco diesel was....$100k is a lot to roll the dice on a company like this.

If you don't like the company they are right now, wait a minute - they'll get sold to new owners and be an entirely new company.

Or, you could buy a BEV truck from some new manufacturer like Rivian that’s losing money and investors. Some might not survive at all. At least Stellantis seems to be somewhat solid with plenty of assets and cash.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #18 on: November 07, 2023, 08:02:55 pm »
I will feel sorry for the early adopters of any FCA.

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Re: 2025 RAM No more Hemi and a 700 mile EV!
« Reply #19 on: November 07, 2023, 08:48:38 pm »
Looks like a great idea! Especially for trucks that get used a lot in rural areas.

GM management, go slap yourselves

This. It took Stellantis to apply the Volt approach to the American cash cow by excellence, the full-size truck. Solves the range-while-towing issue.
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