Topic: 2024 Toyota Land Cruiser

[Fobroader]

Even in mud, a brake biased diff will overheat very quickly.

[Layne]

Yeah I would look at that although wifey would like the GX. Does the 4 cylinder suck or is it ok?

The Turbocharged 2.4-liter inline-four hybrid engine 326 HP, 465 LB-FT. It's from the Tacoma. Plenty of power

https://www.thedrive.com/news/2024-toyota-tacoma-trd-pro-vs-ranger-raptor-colorado-zr2-frontier-pro-4x

The Tacoma TRD Pro comes with a hybrid drivetrain, featuring a 2.4-liter turbo-four engine that delivers an impressive 465 pound-feet of torque at just 1,700 rpm, making it suitable for various tasks like crawling, towing, or improving fuel efficiency.

Power wasn't my concern, it was does it suck?      Numbers are one thing but how it drives is quite another. Another concern is will it last 300k kms with just oil changes. If no to the former and yes to the latter then it gets a check mark.

It doesn't have a locking front differential, so no, it's a softroader. Turbos normally last around 150,000 miles on average, about 240,000. It's a Toyota; this thing will run until the wheels fall off and the engine goes bang after a million clicks, even with abuse and no oil changes. I'm sure it's a Toyota. 

Has crawl control in lieu of the front locker.

Thats not nearly the same thing, brake biased diffs<an actual locking diff. Is it better than nothing, yeah, but its not close to an actual locker.

I agree.  But Toyota has always used this system in lieu of a simple rocker.

[ktm525]

So I assume a tricked LC and a GX will price close enough. Which engine do you prefer? Yje 4 cylinder hybrid thingy or the twin turbo V6?  Uhh don't really care about mileage for this discussion.

[Jaeger]

So I assume a tricked LC and a GX will price close enough. Which engine do you prefer? Yje 4 cylinder hybrid thingy or the twin turbo V6?  Uhh don't really care about mileage for this discussion.

Flock the 4 pot.

[JohnnyMac]

So I assume a tricked LC and a GX will price close enough. Which engine do you prefer? Yje 4 cylinder hybrid thingy or the twin turbo V6?  Uhh don't really care about mileage for this discussion.

What do you consider “priced close enough”?

[ktm525]

So I assume a tricked LC and a GX will price close enough. Which engine do you prefer? Yje 4 cylinder hybrid thingy or the twin turbo V6?  Uhh don't really care about mileage for this discussion.

What do you consider “priced close enough”?

$10-15k.

[JohnnyMac]

So I assume a tricked LC and a GX will price close enough. Which engine do you prefer? Yje 4 cylinder hybrid thingy or the twin turbo V6?  Uhh don't really care about mileage for this discussion.

What do you consider “priced close enough”?

$10-15k.

I’m not sure base to base will be that.  I’m guessing base LC will be low 70’s, the GX base for this next generation will likely be close to if not $90k.  Not an inconsiderable amount of price spread.

I would rather the V6, but I don’t think the turbo 4 would a deal breaker for me personally.

[ktm525]

I am thinking  top of the line LC to a mid GX. A couple items. Not sure if a two row GX will be available (my 3 row days are gone) and one thing they don't address. The GX seats fold flat (non hybrid). I don't think the LC hybrid rear seats fold flat.

[Dante]

The GX seats fold flat (non hybrid). I don't think the LC hybrid rear seats fold flat.

Plus the cargo floor is raised on the LC (batteries?) which makes the cargo hight to the top of the seats pretty shallow.

[JohnnyMac]

Price for US just announced https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46868011/2024-toyota-land-cruiser-price/.  At around $57,500, and looking at the Lexus GX 550 price in the US of $64,250, that's about a $7K difference from base model to base model.

So looking at the Lexus GX price in Canada of $83,500, realistically the Land Cruise should be at or below $75K CAD, which I think is a decent price indeed.

[ktm525]

Top model is $72K US which means close to $100k CDN for fully dressed.

[JohnnyMac]

Top model is $72K US which means close to $100k CDN for fully dressed.

Did you just use the currency difference to come up with that assessment?  If so you're likely off.  What you should do is take a $72k Toyota or Lexus and see what the exact same make and model costs in Canada, and that will give you a more realistic expectation.

Edit:  I see now that they stated the price will be $76K for the top trim, which is a bit more than the Sequoia Platinum, which means that it will in fact be pushing that $100K number. 

[ktm525]

Top model is $72K US which means close to $100k CDN for fully dressed.

Did you just use the currency difference to come up with that assessment?  If so you're likely off.  What you should do is take a $72k Toyota or Lexus and see what the exact same make and model costs in Canada, and that will give you a more realistic expectation.

Edit:  I see now that they stated the price will be $76K for the top trim, which is a bit more than the Sequoia Platinum, which means that it will in fact be pushing that $100K number.

What Toyota prices them in Canada is almost irrelevant.  If the delta between Canada and the US is too great they will simply be bought and shipped to the US. This boost in demand in Canada will allow dealers to lather on dealer add-ons pushing the price close. Like Raptors.

or Toyota will direct the majority of the supply to where they capture the most $$$. Canada will get a few token models. KTM does this with motorcycles all the time.

But yes by the time these go on sale in Canada the Cdn dollar will be $0.72.

[warp]

Land Cruiser Canada pricing is out

https://media.toyota.ca/en/releases/2024/toyota-canada-announces-pricing-for-all-new-2024-toyota-land-cru.html

1958 trim with cloth seats  - $72921 + tax, licensing
Land Cruiser with leatherette - $80,921 ++
Premium package with leather - $86,921 ++
First Edition, limited production run - $94001

[ktm525]

Land Cruiser Canada pricing is out

https://media.toyota.ca/en/releases/2024/toyota-canada-announces-pricing-for-all-new-2024-toyota-land-cru.html

1958 trim with cloth seats  - $72921 + tax, licensing
Land Cruiser with leatherette - $80,921 ++
Premium package with leather - $86,921 ++
First Edition, limited production run - $94001

Bend over and spread the cheeks!

[warp]

Land Cruiser Canada pricing is out

https://media.toyota.ca/en/releases/2024/toyota-canada-announces-pricing-for-all-new-2024-toyota-land-cru.html

1958 trim with cloth seats  - $72921 + tax, licensing
Land Cruiser with leatherette - $80,921 ++
Premium package with leather - $86,921 ++
First Edition, limited production run - $94001

Bend over and spread the cheeks!

  You bet. For $80,921 ++, - the regular Land Cruiser -  you do not even get a power passenger seat!! For that you have to upgrade to the Premium Package.

[Layne]

Crap.  This means $70K plus for a loaded 4Runner next gen

[JohnnyMac]

I guess I'm the only one that actually thinks the pricing is decent.  Anyone ever look at the last generation MSRP in the US?  In 2020 a base model Land Cruiser was over $85K USD.

I do hope that this design language is used for the 4Runner and keep the same powertrain as this, or maybe have a base with just the turbo motor.

[warp]

I guess I'm the only one that actually thinks the pricing is decent.  Anyone ever look at the last generation MSRP in the US?  In 2020 a base model Land Cruiser was over $85K USD.

I do hope that this design language is used for the 4Runner and keep the same powertrain as this, or maybe have a base with just the turbo motor.

That last generation LC was equivalent to the Lexus LX 600. The new platform that both are on in this generation has the same wheelbase though the LX 600 & the "big" Land Cruiser, LC300, not sold in North America and the current LX 600 are slightly longer vs the GX550 and this Land Cruiser under discussion.

[OliverD]

Crap.  This means $70K plus for a loaded 4Runner next gen

A loaded 4Runner is already $70k.