Topic: 2024 Mazda CX-90

[DriverJeff]

Thoughts? Comments?  Questions you'd like answers for in the upcoming preview story for the Mazda CX-90?

[JohnnyMac]

Good look CUV with an interesting engine.  How about, do they have any plans on putting this engine into something enthusiast would actually like, maybe a sports car or sports sedan, preferably manual?  Otherwise, it's just another CUV just with an interesting engine choice.

[Hammy]

I'd like to know how it stacks up against the BMW/AUDI/MERCEDES offering in the same segment.  There is always going to be perceived additional value from the luxury brands but is the actual value gap really closing especially with the inline 6 now going in the CX-90.  I'd like to know what the research shows.  Thanks

[OliverD]

Good look CUV with an interesting engine.  How about, do they have any plans on putting this engine into something enthusiast would actually like, maybe a sports car or sports sedan, preferably manual?  Otherwise, it's just another CUV just with an interesting engine choice.

Yes, but it's the next generation Lexus IS. 

[JohnnyMac]

Good look CUV with an interesting engine.  How about, do they have any plans on putting this engine into something enthusiast would actually like, maybe a sports car or sports sedan, preferably manual?  Otherwise, it's just another CUV just with an interesting engine choice.

Yes, but it's the next generation Lexus IS. 

Is it though?  I remember hearing that rumor but still now real confirmation that is what it'll end up in.  Plus if it's being developed for a Mazda CUV, wouldn't it only make sense for Lexus to be looking at putting it into one of their CUV's also (next gen GX maybe?).

[OliverD]

Good look CUV with an interesting engine.  How about, do they have any plans on putting this engine into something enthusiast would actually like, maybe a sports car or sports sedan, preferably manual?  Otherwise, it's just another CUV just with an interesting engine choice.

Yes, but it's the next generation Lexus IS. 

Is it though?  I remember hearing that rumor but still now real confirmation that is what it'll end up in.  Plus if it's being developed for a Mazda CUV, wouldn't it only make sense for Lexus to be looking at putting it into one of their CUV's also (next gen GX maybe?).

Yeah, I dunno. There's also rumours the next IS will be EV-only so who knows.

[JohnnyMac]

Good look CUV with an interesting engine.  How about, do they have any plans on putting this engine into something enthusiast would actually like, maybe a sports car or sports sedan, preferably manual?  Otherwise, it's just another CUV just with an interesting engine choice.

Yes, but it's the next generation Lexus IS. 

Is it though?  I remember hearing that rumor but still now real confirmation that is what it'll end up in.  Plus if it's being developed for a Mazda CUV, wouldn't it only make sense for Lexus to be looking at putting it into one of their CUV's also (next gen GX maybe?).

Yeah, I dunno. There's also rumours the next IS will be EV-only so who knows.

Well I doubt there will ever be another V8 in an IS, having a straight 6 would be a very nice compromise, but again, I tend to think that would be their top trim performance level and not the volume seller.  EV only will likely happen in the next decade, so maybe one more generation.  Regardless, there won't be a manual with any of that so zero interest for me.

[DriverJeff]

Good look CUV with an interesting engine.  How about, do they have any plans on putting this engine into something enthusiast would actually like, maybe a sports car or sports sedan, preferably manual?  Otherwise, it's just another CUV just with an interesting engine choice.

That was going to be one of my first q's as well, which, sadly will be met with the usual response of "We don't discuss future products".  Sadly, the small group of Cdn journalists won't be the ones to get the 'scoop' on some hot new MX-6 or something, I'm afraid. 

[Great_Big_Abyss]

^^^ Ahh, they wouldn't sell very many even if they did.  Sadly, not really a market anymore for sedans, coupes, or even sports cars. 

I am also curious how the new CX-90 stacks up against more upscale competition, like the BMW X5, Q5, etc.  Also, what advantages could be had by upgrading from something more benign like a CX-5.

Case-in-point, myself:  I LOVE my CX-5, but at some point, I may find myself wanting 'more'.  I'm sold, hook, line and sinker on Mazda's philosophy, so I would want to stay in-brand.  From reviews, a CX-50 doesn't seem like a big enough of an upgrade to warrant a change from a CX-5.  Will a CX-90 fit that bill?  Does it offer enough of an upscale experience for the price that it is worth upgrading from a current Mazda product?

[dkaz]

They haven't mated the 2.5L turbo to a manual yet, I wouldn't bet on the I6 turbo.

[OliverD]

^^^ Ahh, they wouldn't sell very many even if they did.  Sadly, not really a market anymore for sedans, coupes, or even sports cars. 

I am also curious how the new CX-90 stacks up against more upscale competition, like the BMW X5, Q5, etc.  Also, what advantages could be had by upgrading from something more benign like a CX-5.

Case-in-point, myself:  I LOVE my CX-5, but at some point, I may find myself wanting 'more'.  I'm sold, hook, line and sinker on Mazda's philosophy, so I would want to stay in-brand.  From reviews, a CX-50 doesn't seem like a big enough of an upgrade to warrant a change from a CX-5.  Will a CX-90 fit that bill?  Does it offer enough of an upscale experience for the price that it is worth upgrading from a current Mazda product?

The primary differentiator of the CX-90 will be its size. I'm not sure that in terms of upscale experience it needs to offer a ton more, though I'd imagine it will have features and amenities that aren't available on the current CX-5.

[JohnnyMac]

^^^ Ahh, they wouldn't sell very many even if they did.  Sadly, not really a market anymore for sedans, coupes, or even sports cars. 

I am also curious how the new CX-90 stacks up against more upscale competition, like the BMW X5, Q5, etc.  Also, what advantages could be had by upgrading from something more benign like a CX-5.

Case-in-point, myself:  I LOVE my CX-5, but at some point, I may find myself wanting 'more'.  I'm sold, hook, line and sinker on Mazda's philosophy, so I would want to stay in-brand.  From reviews, a CX-50 doesn't seem like a big enough of an upgrade to warrant a change from a CX-5.  Will a CX-90 fit that bill?  Does it offer enough of an upscale experience for the price that it is worth upgrading from a current Mazda product?

Hmmmm, I'd like to see how sales of sports cars have done over the past 20 years.  Have they gone down similar to other car segments, or the minivan segment?  Obviously it hasn't paced with the SUV/CUV segment, but I would be curious to see how sports cars have sold over that time period.

[OliverD]

^^^ Ahh, they wouldn't sell very many even if they did.  Sadly, not really a market anymore for sedans, coupes, or even sports cars. 

I am also curious how the new CX-90 stacks up against more upscale competition, like the BMW X5, Q5, etc.  Also, what advantages could be had by upgrading from something more benign like a CX-5.

Case-in-point, myself:  I LOVE my CX-5, but at some point, I may find myself wanting 'more'.  I'm sold, hook, line and sinker on Mazda's philosophy, so I would want to stay in-brand.  From reviews, a CX-50 doesn't seem like a big enough of an upgrade to warrant a change from a CX-5.  Will a CX-90 fit that bill?  Does it offer enough of an upscale experience for the price that it is worth upgrading from a current Mazda product?

Hmmmm, I'd like to see how sales of sports cars have done over the past 20 years.  Have they gone down similar to other car segments, or the minivan segment?  Obviously it hasn't paced with the SUV/CUV segment, but I would be curious to see how sports cars have sold over that time period.

In generally, quite poorly, perhaps excepting the really high dollar stuff. Car and Driver did a piece about the declining sales trend of sports cars a few years ago.

[ktm525]

They will sell dozens! 

[PJungnitsch]

I'd be interested in just how available the plug in hybrid will be. That's a huge market gap right now

[Dante]

Would like to know if a pure ICE option will be available.

[ktm525]

I hope it is. We should be encouraging inline 6s. I forgot how nice and smooth they are.  Had one in the 85 Supra and now in the 2016 XC60. Mazda should persevere with this..

[ArticSteve]

Questions

1. When the CX-90 launches, it will be the first Mazda to use a new turbocharged 3.3-liter inline-six engine that is expected to be augmented by a 48-volt hybrid system.  (non plug in)

Is the above accurate?

2.  If just a straight ICE then how does the STOP/START function?  Ridiculous I-pad control like GTI or physical button and where is the button located?  Next to the shifter or on the left side of the steering wheel like on the Genesis where it's really hard to locate and touch?

3. AWD system;  real AWD or slip and grip?  Torque vectoring; differential or cheaper use of wheel calipers?

Good luck SIR!   

[Ontariodriver]

It was accidentally leaked the rear end yesterday

https://www.autoevolution.com/news/2024-mazda-cx-90-in-artisan-red-premium-is-accidentally-leaked-by-british-tv-star-208968.html#

Looks alright very Mazda.

[Dante]

That color is awesome.