Topic: Ridgeline is a lemon, time to go truck shopping!!

[Fobroader]

Well, I hate to say it, but the RL has been a bust. In the beginning, water leaks that took a bunch of trips to Honda to partially repair, then they didn't put my backseat together properly, then they forgot to install a seat belt buckle, still not sure its fixed 100%. Then came the vehicular brain farts that threw the thing into limp mode and turned my dash into a christmas tree. Sure, I can just pull over, shut it off and turn it back on, but shouldn't be happening then after the lights go off and it goes out of limp mode, the tranny shifts like something Chrysler made in the late 80s. Dealer cannot figure out whats wrong with it, been in like 3-4 times. I should have gone with my gut originally and gone for a Tundra, so it looks like I will be in the market for a 18 or 19-21 Tundra in the near future. It sucks, because I really, really like my Pilot with a circumcision, but its just given me too many headaches.

[dkaz]

I don't blame you at all. My recent 09 Odyssey was also a little problematic, leaky VTEC solenoid gasket over the alternator took out the alternator then it never started properly since that little -40 cold snap. Odyssey before that transmission blew. My old 85-88 Civics were better despite being all 300,000+ km but compared to a 300,000+ km Toyota...

People overhype Honda's reliability as being on par with Toyota when it's not. Or maybe Toyota was brought down on par with Honda by faulty head gaskets and head bolts in some of their engines.

[bridgecity]

I don't blame you at all. My recent 09 Odyssey was also a little problematic, leaky VTEC solenoid gasket over the alternator took out the alternator then it never started properly since that little -40 cold snap. Odyssey before that transmission blew. My old 85-88 Civics were better despite being all 300,000+ km but compared to a 300,000+ km Toyota...

People overhype Honda's reliability as being on par with Toyota when it's not. Or maybe Toyota was brought down on par with Honda by faulty head gaskets and head bolts in some of their engines.

What year and how many km's on the transmission in the Ody?

[dkaz]

315,000km. A Toyota transmission will barely have broken in by then.

My 09 Odyssey only had 205,000 km when I got it.

[revalations]

Geez, what's going on with Honda? A good friend is having issues with her 2017 Pilot, its using oil and fouling plugs. It's under an extended warranty and nobody's coming forward to try to get it repaired, they keep saying oil consumption and missfires are normal. Then they switched and said it needs new piston rings which somehow aren't covered!

Know someone else with a 2021 Civic that's having transmission issues already. Several trips to the dealer without any resolution. I've driven it and think its going out 100%.

Maybe Honda want's to be more like Hyundai? 

[dkaz]

Geez, what's going on with Honda? A good friend is having issues with her 2017 Pilot, its using oil and fouling plugs. It's under an extended warranty and nobody's coming forward to try to get it repaired, they keep saying oil consumption and missfires are normal. Then they switched and said it needs new piston rings which somehow aren't covered!

100% sounds like damage caused by VCM. Disabling VCM might help reduce or reverse some of the symptoms, but it would void warranty.

[Fobroader]

Geez, what's going on with Honda? A good friend is having issues with her 2017 Pilot, its using oil and fouling plugs. It's under an extended warranty and nobody's coming forward to try to get it repaired, they keep saying oil consumption and missfires are normal. Then they switched and said it needs new piston rings which somehow aren't covered!

Know someone else with a 2021 Civic that's having transmission issues already. Several trips to the dealer without any resolution. I've driven it and think its going out 100%.

Maybe Honda want's to be more like Hyundai? 

A friend of ours mom bought a CRV with that horrible 1.5T, that thing is almost two stroke for the amount of oil it uses.

[bridgecity]

315,000km. A Toyota transmission will barely have broken in by then.

My 09 Odyssey only had 205,000 km when I got it.

Ya OK .  You sound like the young dudes on one of the Tundra sites I visit.  "Just broken in at 400k km."  You can't use a transmission with 315,000 km on it (and how old?) as a reference for poor reliability.

Not arguing Honda is on par with Toyota, because I don't feel that way, but I do question that specific example.

[Fobroader]

315,000km. A Toyota transmission will barely have broken in by then.

My 09 Odyssey only had 205,000 km when I got it.

Ya OK .  You sound like the young dudes on one of the Tundra sites I visit.  "Just broken in at 400k km."  You can't use a transmission with 315,000 km on it (and how old?) as a reference for poor reliability.

Not arguing Honda is on par with Toyota, because I don't feel that way, but I do question that specific example.

I don't know, if I got 15 years and 315k kms out of a car and the tranny popped, I would be ok with it, definitely got my money out of it.

[bridgecity]

315,000km. A Toyota transmission will barely have broken in by then.

My 09 Odyssey only had 205,000 km when I got it.

Ya OK .  You sound like the young dudes on one of the Tundra sites I visit.  "Just broken in at 400k km."  You can't use a transmission with 315,000 km on it (and how old?) as a reference for poor reliability.

Not arguing Honda is on par with Toyota, because I don't feel that way, but I do question that specific example.

I don't know, if I got 15 years and 315k kms out of a car and the tranny popped, I would be ok with it, definitely got my money out of it.

Exactly, that's my argument also.  Also, was it a high mileage unit when purchased?  Was the history known? 

[marcus_go]

Well that is unfortunate. My dad has a 2022 Touring as well and knock on wood it is okay so far.

Curious what the mileage is at? Have you tried a different dealer or escalated to Honda Canada? I agree though that Honda quality has most definitely gone down in the past decade.

[Fobroader]

Well that is unfortunate. My dad has a 2022 Touring as well and knock on wood it is okay so far.

Curious what the mileage is at? Have you tried a different dealer or escalated to Honda Canada? I agree though that Honda quality has most definitely gone down in the past decade.

She's got about 50k kms and honestly, I can't be bothered, I've just lost faith in the vehicle. I don't want to have a freakout in the middle of bumf$%k, nowhere Saskatchewan when its -35. Now, can any vehicle do that, absolutely, but this has a storied history of doing it.

[ktm525]

Well, I hate to say it, but the RL has been a bust. In the beginning, water leaks that took a bunch of trips to Honda to partially repair, then they didn't put my backseat together properly, then they forgot to install a seat belt buckle, still not sure its fixed 100%. Then came the vehicular brain farts that threw the thing into limp mode and turned my dash into a christmas tree. Sure, I can just pull over, shut it off and turn it back on, but shouldn't be happening then after the lights go off and it goes out of limp mode, the tranny shifts like something Chrysler made in the late 80s. Dealer cannot figure out whats wrong with it, been in like 3-4 times. I should have gone with my gut originally and gone for a Tundra, so it looks like I will be in the market for a 18 or 19-21 Tundra in the near future. It sucks, because I really, really like my Pilot with a circumcision, but its just given me too many headaches.

Should have bought a gen 1...     I am not sure I would buy a newer generation one, just not the same. I like old Tundras and hell even a Ram Classic....But in reality true enlightenment means a 2500 Ford Transit cargo van. That's my next whip.

[ktm525]

315,000km. A Toyota transmission will barely have broken in by then.

My 09 Odyssey only had 205,000 km when I got it.

Out of date  but my father's gen 2 4Runner went through 2 replacement transmissions before Toyota offered him a buyout.

[marcus_go]

The gen 1 Ridgeline was made in Canada until around 2010 or so. I think quality control took a real nose dive when they moved assembly to Alabama and never really recovered.

[JohnnyMac]

That’s definitely too bad but it’s what you get for buying a minivan with a bed    But seriously, if you are looking for a replacement that should be reliable and not be a complete pig on fuel, have you considered the Ram Classic with the V6?  Great value right now new, likely can get really low interest rates, and maybe even negotiate a bit less if you find the right dealer.

The last gen Tundra is definitely the reliability king, but they are still quite pricy used and aren’t known for being good on gas.

Either way, hope you find something that isn’t a complete pain in the butt.

[ktm525]

The gen 1 Ridgeline was made in Canada until around 2010 or so. I think quality control took a real nose dive when they moved assembly to Alabama and never really recovered.

2009 and the assembly quality definitely took a hit but the overall durability improved a little until the run ended in 2014. Honda spent a lot of time developing the gen ! and it showed. In my mind 2005ish (when the gen 1 Ridgeline debuted) was about the end of "good" Hondas.

[Gurgie]

Wow that sucks! I've been lucky with my Passport, no issues (knock on wood) with it apart from a couple of recalls.

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[rrocket]

Unfortunate.

Had the Lexus been ok?

Perhaps another Toyota product if the Lexus has been ok?

[ktm525]

If you actually want a truck I think you need to be looking full size.. An older Tundra would be nice if you could find a creampuff.