Topic: Comparison Test: 2017 Genesis G90 vs 2017 Volvo S90

[dirtyjeffer]

Going over the IIHS reports for these two vehicles clearly shows Volvo's superiority in safety.

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how so, the G90 scores good (green) in every category except one, where it scored acceptable (yellow) in the LATCH ease of use...it also scored a superior rating in front crash protection and earned a Top Safety Pick+ rating...it pretty much doesn't get any better than that.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/genesis/g90-4-door-sedan/2017

in fact, the Volvo S90 scored identical in every category, with a Marginal rating (orange) on the headlights...so no, the Volvo doesn't show any superiority to the G90 at all...it is equally safe, with crappy headlights.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/volvo/s90-4-door-sedan

[ktm525]

Interesting comparo. Both brands are known for their less than stellar suspension tuning. Perhaps these models will show they have turned the corner so to speak.  Until I drive them I will take the V8 in the Hyundai.



 

[SKYMTL]

Going over the IIHS reports for these two vehicles clearly shows Volvo's superiority in safety.

??

how so, the G90 scores good (green) in every category except one, where it scored acceptable (yellow) in the LATCH ease of use...it also scored a superior rating in front crash protection and earned a Top Safety Pick+ rating...it pretty much doesn't get any better than that.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/genesis/g90-4-door-sedan/2017

in fact, the Volvo S90 scored identical in every category, with a Marginal rating (orange) on the headlights...so no, the Volvo doesn't show any superiority to the G90 at all...it is equally safe, with crappy headlights.

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/volvo/s90-4-door-sedan

Look into the numbers in both reports rather than the generalized numbers and letters.  Just click on Print Full Report. 

The Volvo has substantially lower cockpit intrusion, has less head deflection, etc. etc. etc. 

[ktm525]

The two most important safety features (well maybe behind TC) is big power and big brakes. No mention of braking at all in the article?

[Gurgie]

Well, I think it would be cut more slack in the context of a high-performance supercar than in a mainstream daily driver, so I think you're right that it would be received differently in a GT 500.  But as to how we view this type of technology - lots of manufacturers do turbos and some do superchargers but none others that I know of do both in a mainstream production vehicle.

VW introduced the 1.4TSI in 2005 that is both supercharged & turbocharged, used in European Golf's, SEAT's, Polo GTI, etc... from 2005 up till 2013ish I believe.

[dirtyjeffer]

Look into the numbers in both reports rather than the generalized numbers and letters.  Just click on Print Full Report. 

The Volvo has substantially lower cockpit intrusion, has less head deflection, etc. etc. etc.

i see what you mean now...however, i don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as you are implying though...for example, the lower intrusion numbers on the Volvo in various points were 2, 2, 2 and 4mm...the Genesis was 7,9,5 and 2mm...while they look like substantial percentage differences, we're talking fractions of an inch here (5, 7, 3 and 2mm difference, with the last favouring the Genesis)...7mm is just over 1/4 inch, so even though numerically the numbers look quite different, in actual real distance of intrusion, the differences are very minimal, which is why both were given the top rating.

for fun, check out the Mazda5 for comparison...35,26,22,21...sounds like a football audible. 

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/mazda/5-4-door-wagon?print-view

[goodsonr]

just to chime in on the "crappy" volvo headlights.  I don't know if the ones on the 90 are the same as other/earlier models but ... the problem is not so much the headlights themselves, but that the Volvo specification is to have them aimed very low (at least the HIDs).   Fortunately, they are easily adjustable ..even though,I'm told, most dealerships will not adjust them beyond spec (as expected).  So its easy to go from crappy to A-OK with a few twists of the wrist.

[Guy]

HID Headlights on both our Volvo's are outstanding. No adjustments needed.

[goodsonr]

I dunno man as we have essentially the same car.  But both my wife and I found the low-beam reach to be ridiculously short when driving on an unlit country road.  All good now, though - so no big deal.

[dirtyjeffer]

Look into the numbers in both reports rather than the generalized numbers and letters.  Just click on Print Full Report. 

The Volvo has substantially lower cockpit intrusion, has less head deflection, etc. etc. etc.

i see what you mean now...however, i don't think it's nearly as big of a deal as you are implying though...for example, the lower intrusion numbers on the Volvo in various points were 2, 2, 2 and 4mm...the Genesis was 7,9,5 and 2mm...while they look like substantial percentage differences, we're talking fractions of an inch here (5, 7, 3 and 2mm difference, with the last favouring the Genesis)...7mm is just over 1/4 inch, so even though numerically the numbers look quite different, in actual real distance of intrusion, the differences are very minimal, which is why both were given the top rating.

for fun, check out the Mazda5 for comparison...35,26,22,21...sounds like a football audible. 

http://www.iihs.org/iihs/ratings/vehicle/v/mazda/5-4-door-wagon?print-view

actually, correction...the measurements are in cm, not mm...so yes, there is some differences there (between the Volvo and Genesis)...7 cm is almost 3 inches...not insignificant, but in a car that likely has a fair amount of room to begin with, likely not too bad...for sure though, smaller is better...that makes that Mazda5 even that much worse.

[Noto]

Thing is...

... Both cars cost a lot of cash.  The Volvo's easier price of entry is far more appealing to me - a mere plebe.

[dirtyjeffer]

Thing is...

... Both cars cost a lot of cash.  The Volvo's easier price of entry is far more appealing to me - a mere plebe.

sure, if you want the welfare trim. 

of course, you could also go with the G80 if you want something closer in price.

[Jaeger]

I dunno man as we have essentially the same car.  But both my wife and I found the low-beam reach to be ridiculously short when driving on an unlit country road.  All good now, though - so no big deal.

The low beams on my Genesis are also aimed too low and the dealer won't adjust them because they are within factory spec.    I don't trust my own ability to adjust them even though I'm sure it's easy for someone who  knows how.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I dunno man as we have essentially the same car.  But both my wife and I found the low-beam reach to be ridiculously short when driving on an unlit country road.  All good now, though - so no big deal.

The low beams on my Genesis are also aimed too low and the dealer won't adjust them because they are within factory spec.    I don't trust my own ability to adjust them even though I'm sure it's easy for someone who  knows how.

if they are with factory spec than they are not aimed too low 

[Jaeger]

I dunno man as we have essentially the same car.  But both my wife and I found the low-beam reach to be ridiculously short when driving on an unlit country road.  All good now, though - so no big deal.

The low beams on my Genesis are also aimed too low and the dealer won't adjust them because they are within factory spec.    I don't trust my own ability to adjust them even though I'm sure it's easy for someone who  knows how.

if they are with factory spec than they are not aimed too low