Topic: Quick Spin: 2017 Chevrolet Corvette Z06

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[dirtyjeffer]

aside from the 50s and 60s corvettes, they never did it for me...i appreciated their performance value, but they always got a big "meh"...this latest generation though is really good...such a great car.

[JohnnyMac]

Definitely one of the fastest vehicles one can buy for that price.  This current generation definitely has a more exotic look to them.  They had a normal Stingray at the Volvo dealer and my wife asked if I saw the car...I asked her what it was and she thought it must be a Ferrari or some other exotic vehicle.

I think if I wanted something really fast I'd either get a GTR or save some cash and get one of those Camero ZL1 1LE.  Personally I could never justify buying any Vette over a Camero of this generation.  The difference in performance isn't much but the price difference can be signficant.

[Noto]

Performance-wise, my tester was sporting the massive ceramic brake rotors for $8,625

That's quite the "toy"...

Remember, kiddies, no regular insurance policy covers track use... So I guess buying this thing with said options for the purposes of driving it properly means a ton of Qashqai spent on insurance, fuel, etc.

Sorry James, but MIATA remains ATA.

I do agree this gen of Corvette is leaps and bounds better than its predecessors in practically every way... But I'd stick to a cheaper option or go more exotic at the price of your tester.

[rrocket]

Remember, kiddies, no regular insurance policy covers track use...

That's been beaten in court several times already here. As long as no timing is occurring and it's a HPDE or similar...the insurance had to pay.

Here's the precedent if you're bored
https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2011/2011onca313/2011onca313.html

Either way, you can usually buy additional insurance at the track and several providers now have per day track insurance.

[Jaeger]

"Performance-wise, my tester was sporting the massive ceramic brake rotors for $8,625"
 

That's quite the "toy"...

Remember, kiddies, no regular insurance policy covers track use... So I guess buying this thing with said options for the purposes of driving it properly means a ton of Qashqai spent on insurance, fuel, etc.

Sorry James, but MIATA remains ATA.

I do agree this gen of Corvette is leaps and bounds better than its predecessors in practically every way... But I'd stick to a cheaper option or go more exotic at the price of your tester.

What exotic can you get with similar performance for $120K?

Good question.

[johngenx]

The only other car in that price range is the GT-R.  That's it.  All other ultra-performance cars are far, far more expensive.  The kicker is that GM will sell you this car under a Camaro body for less money yet.

[evil_twin]

"Performance-wise, my tester was sporting the massive ceramic brake rotors for $8,625"
 

That's quite the "toy"...

Remember, kiddies, no regular insurance policy covers track use... So I guess buying this thing with said options for the purposes of driving it properly means a ton of Qashqai spent on insurance, fuel, etc.

Sorry James, but MIATA remains ATA.

I do agree this gen of Corvette is leaps and bounds better than its predecessors in practically every way... But I'd stick to a cheaper option or go more exotic at the price of your tester.

What exotic can you get with similar performance for $120K?

Exactly.   This $120k Corvette is the total ludicrous performance option....not some meager 911 competitor. 

I'd say the Z51-optioned Stingray remains ATA.

[Jaeger]

The only other car in that price range is the GT-R.  That's it.  All other ultra-performance cars are far, far more expensive.  The kicker is that GM will sell you this car under a Camaro body for less money yet.

That's the performance value king right there.

[Noto]

What exotic can you get with similar performance for $120K?

GT-R?  Starts at $125,000 (to be honest, I thought it started at $105,000, which it did some years ago).

Perhaps also "exotic" was a misused term.

Remember, kiddies, no regular insurance policy covers track use...

Here's the precedent if you're bored
https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onca/doc/2011/2011onca313/2011onca313.html

You mean, this one?
https://www.canlii.org/en/on/onsc/doc/2010/2010onsc6359/2010onsc6359.html?autocompleteStr=Carnell&autocompletePos=3

Same subject matter, but the ONCA merely affirms the ONSC decision and is not the one to properly cite.

That, and the subject matter of that one is a driver's education event whereas taking your own car to the track for balls-out funzies is not the equivalent. 

That matter was also one arguing against statutory conditions mandatory on all policies, but insurers have their own exclusionary clauses that you should be aware of.  I know you have difficulties with laws dictating your life, but I merely highlight that folks should not assume that they will be covered at Amateur day at the track.

Either way, you can usually buy additional insurance at the track and several providers now have per day track insurance.

I agree with you there, but again highlight that it's not a "standard" term of most "regular" insurance policies! 

[Jaeger]

Trying to figure out how a GT-R is "more exotic" than a Corvette.    Actually, not trying.  It isn't.

[Noto]

My question was rhetorical. IF exotic was misused what did you mean?

Trying to figure out how a GT-R is "more exotic" than a Corvette.    Actually, not trying.  It isn't.

My comment was relating to alternatives to the track-oriented Corvette.  None of those were the Z06, but my thought still remains:

http://www.caranddriver.com/comparisons/2014-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-convertible-vs-2014-jaguar-f-type-v-8-s-comparison-test

http://www.autos.ca/car-test-drives/test-drive-2014-jaguar-f-type-convertible-v8-s/

http://www.autos.ca/car-comparisons/comparison-test-2015-chevrolet-corvette-stingray-vs-2015-porsche-boxster-gts/5/?all=1

[Fobroader]

Neither the GT-R, Vette or even a 911 is "exotic". Are they fast, exciting and nice to look at, absolutely, exotic, no, you have to get into the Pagani, Buggati, Koenisegg(Spl??) for me to consider it exotic. Even most Ferraris or Lambos aren't exotic in my books.

[lebowski]

How much worse is the visibility out of the Camaro than the Corvette? Based only on pictures, it seems pretty bad, and not what you'd when you're dealing with 600+ hp, even at the Camaro's steep discount.

[Noto]

Neither the GT-R, Vette or even a 911 is "exotic". Are they fast, exciting and nice to look at, absolutely, exotic, no, you have to get into the Pagani, Buggati, Koenisegg(Spl??) for me to consider it exotic. Even most Ferraris or Lambos are exotic in my books.

And from my perspective, a BMW, MB, or Lexus is "exotic".  My use of the term was that which was a non-domestic, non-run-of-the-mill car.

ex·ot·ic
iɡˈzädik/adjective
1. originating in or characteristic of a distant foreign country.

I concur that the 3-series, for example, is not the most "exotic" thing out there, but comparatively speaking, I guess anything could be - that's why I said:

Perhaps also "exotic" was a misused term.

I don't think you need to go as rare and expensive as a fricken Bugatti to be considered "exotic" though.

[Fobroader]

Neither the GT-R, Vette or even a 911 is "exotic". Are they fast, exciting and nice to look at, absolutely, exotic, no, you have to get into the Pagani, Buggati, Koenisegg(Spl??) for me to consider it exotic. Even most Ferraris or Lambos are exotic in my books.

And from my perspective, a BMW, MB, or Lexus is "exotic".  My use of the term was that which was a non-domestic, non-run-of-the-mill car.

ex·ot·ic
iɡˈzädik/adjective
1. originating in or characteristic of a distant foreign country.

I concur that the 3-series, for example, is not the most "exotic" thing out there, but comparatively speaking, I guess anything could be - that's why I said:

Perhaps also "exotic" was a misused term.

I don't think you need to go as rare and expensive as a fricken Bugatti to be considered "exotic" though.

No, a run of the mill BMW, Merc or Audi is nowhere near exotic. A Maybach, sure, an Audi R8 V10, meh. To me exotic is something that I do not see everyday and cannot be bested in every performance bracket by a V6 Camry, see the badgemobile, welfare spec 4 banger base models from BMW, Merc and Audi.

[lebowski]

How much worse is the visibility out of the Camaro than the Corvette? Based only on pictures, it seems pretty bad, and not what you'd when you're dealing with 600+ hp, even at the Camaro's steep discount.

Just about every review or person that has driven a Camaro has said that yes it is hard to see out of but yes you get used to it quickly.

ahh i see. thanks.

[johngenx]

The reason the ZL-1 is hard to see out of is that the blood is being drained from your eyes thanks to the extreme g-forces the car can generate.

What Ferrari can really run with the Z-06?  The 488.  I think the 488 is more exotic looking, but only barely - the Corvette looks fast and mean and crazy hot.  Does the Ferrari have better build quality?  Doubtful. What do I get for my extra $250K?  The Club.  I have to apply for ownership and I'm made to wait and I know unless I live in some very select neighbourhoods, I'll never see another one.  All that BS makes like the Corvette even more!

[Fobroader]

Neither the GT-R, Vette or even a 911 is "exotic". Are they fast, exciting and nice to look at, absolutely, exotic, no, you have to get into the Pagani, Buggati, Koenisegg(Spl??) for me to consider it exotic. Even most Ferraris or Lambos are exotic in my books.

And from my perspective, a BMW, MB, or Lexus is "exotic".  My use of the term was that which was a non-domestic, non-run-of-the-mill car.

ex·ot·ic
iɡˈzädik/adjective
1. originating in or characteristic of a distant foreign country.

I concur that the 3-series, for example, is not the most "exotic" thing out there, but comparatively speaking, I guess anything could be - that's why I said:

Perhaps also "exotic" was a misused term.

I don't think you need to go as rare and expensive as a fricken Bugatti to be considered "exotic" though.

And don't pull your lawyer reasoning with me. There's a well known metric for what's considered an "exotic car." Lambo, Ferrari, Mclaren, etc.

You have to put it to him in terms cognizable to his warped legal mind.

The two conditions he specified - being imported and not run-of-the-mill - are necessary but not sufficient to qualify an auto as an "exotic".

So if I import some craptastic Peugeot with a 1L diesel, its an exotic?? Its imported and definitely not run of the mill.....

[lebowski]

So if I import some craptastic Peugeot with a 1L diesel, its an exotic?? Its imported and definitely not run of the mill.....

Similarly, is a Ford GT not exotic? Or how about a Camaro ZL-1....purchased as a grey market import in a foreign country?