Topic: Brand new 12 year old Goodyears sold by PMCtire.com

[ArticSteve]

Not sure what I want to do, with my employee rebate applied the total cost to me will be under $350 for the set.
I could resell them to someone who doesn't care about the age for $400?   
Use them but be paranoid about the age?
Return them and keep shopping?

You'd resell those tires for $50. profit thinking that they are possibly unsafe

There is nothing wrong with those tires.  Use them.  They look like snows in the pic.

Regardless, they are at least "GOOD FOR A YEAR".

[ktm525]

If you see no cracking then I would go for it.

[blur911]

Not sure what I want to do, with my employee rebate applied the total cost to me will be under $350 for the set.
I could resell them to someone who doesn't care about the age for $400?   
Use them but be paranoid about the age?
Return them and keep shopping?

You'd resell those tires for $50. profit thinking that they are possibly unsafe

There is nothing wrong with those tires.  Use them.  They look like snows in the pic.

Regardless, they are at least "GOOD FOR A YEAR".

Just rounding up, don't care about profit, if I did I'd ask $500, marketplace folks would probably offer me $200 anyhow.  It's just so I would save the hassle of having to ship them back
They are winter performance tires, I've had them before and they are decent tires for the winters we have and I'd probably leave them on the beater all year round.

[ArticSteve]

Yes, offers are always at 50% of new, if new.

People in the last 20 years have developed this false impression of what the real world actually is.  Those tires 40 years ago in this country or yesterday in the ROW would be considered awesome.

You are paying next to nothing.  I do not see a problem.

[blur911]

PMCtire has responded. 
Apparently they knew how old they were, but didn't think I'd mind as it's such a good deal.   
They offered to let me return them and they'll sell them to someone else who doesn't understand date codes.   Goodyear seems to be fine with this, no age limits.

Returning on your dime or theirs?

Seems shady nonetheless, however if Goodyear is fine with it....

I assume return on their dime.
 If they had told me beforehand how old they were I could have made an informed decision, we were already in email contact before they were shipped.

[rrocket]

I'd be more concerned about going with a 12 year old design vs something more modern.

This is why there's still leftovers?  Wasn't a great seller?

[sailor723]

I'd be more concerned about going with a 12 year old design vs something more modern.

This is why there's still leftovers?  Wasn't a great seller?

Maybe.  I seem to recall Good Years were slightly lower tier (ranking below the top 4-5) when it came to winter tire ratings and reviews but still fairly pricey back in the day. I was doing a lot of winter tire research in 2011 for the new ML350  and remember thinking I could do better for similar money.

[Firm]

Yes, offers are always at 50% of new, if new.

People in the last 20 years have developed this false impression of what the real world actually is.  Those tires 40 years ago in this country or yesterday in the ROW would be considered awesome.

You are paying next to nothing.  I do not see a problem.

This, cost is low enough, just run them. Leave them on all year and burn through them.

[sailor723]

Yes, offers are always at 50% of new, if new.

People in the last 20 years have developed this false impression of what the real world actually is.  Those tires 40 years ago in this country or yesterday in the ROW would be considered awesome.

You are paying next to nothing.  I do not see a problem.

This, cost is low enough, just run them. Leave them on all year and burn through them.

Not a bad idea. With ratings I sometimes wonder if the #1 rated item is actually only marginally better than the product finishing 4 or 5 places back.  Sometimes good enough is, in fact, good enough. 

[blur911]

I'd be more concerned about going with a 12 year old design vs something more modern.

This is why there's still leftovers?  Wasn't a great seller?

Maybe.  I seem to recall Good Years were slightly lower tier (ranking below the top 4-5) when it came to winter tire ratings and reviews but still fairly pricey back in the day. I was doing a lot of winter tire research in 2011 for the new ML350  and remember thinking I could do better for similar money.

These were police car tires for the most part from what I gather, at least the size I got was.   They are certainly not the best winter tire, but they are a pretty much a good all-weather tire as they also handle decently.   Going on an old Outback with almost 400k.

[quadzilla]

Going on an old Outback with almost 400k.

So the tires won't be what you are really worried about 

[blur911]

Yes, offers are always at 50% of new, if new.

People in the last 20 years have developed this false impression of what the real world actually is.  Those tires 40 years ago in this country or yesterday in the ROW would be considered awesome.

You are paying next to nothing.  I do not see a problem.

This, cost is low enough, just run them. Leave them on all year and burn through them.

I think I will use them, but only because I can get my employee rebate as well, which makes them stupid cheap and it appears Goodyear will honour warranties.    Again, I don't like that PMCtire didn't inform me the tires were that old, they just hope people don't notice the dates, that seems really sketchy of them.   I wonder if someone (not me)  asked them how old can a tire be and still be safe what they'd say?

[blur911]

Going on an old Outback with almost 400k.

So the tires won't be what you are really worried about 

Yup, to a large degree.   
Next thing it needs is front axles, they're clicking on turns.

[rrocket]

Yes, offers are always at 50% of new, if new.

People in the last 20 years have developed this false impression of what the real world actually is.  Those tires 40 years ago in this country or yesterday in the ROW would be considered awesome.

You are paying next to nothing.  I do not see a problem.

This, cost is low enough, just run them. Leave them on all year and burn through them.

I think I will use them, but only because I can get my employee rebate as well, which makes them stupid cheap and it appears Goodyear will honour warranties.    Again, I don't like that PMCtire didn't inform me the tires were that old, they just hope people don't notice the dates, that seems really sketchy of them.   I wonder if someone (not me)  asked them how old can a tire be and still be safe what they'd say?

I totally get it.

If I'm spending my dough on something "new", I expect it to be mostly that....Not 12 years old!

[blur911]

Yes, offers are always at 50% of new, if new.

People in the last 20 years have developed this false impression of what the real world actually is.  Those tires 40 years ago in this country or yesterday in the ROW would be considered awesome.

You are paying next to nothing.  I do not see a problem.

This, cost is low enough, just run them. Leave them on all year and burn through them.

I think I will use them, but only because I can get my employee rebate as well, which makes them stupid cheap and it appears Goodyear will honour warranties.    Again, I don't like that PMCtire didn't inform me the tires were that old, they just hope people don't notice the dates, that seems really sketchy of them.   I wonder if someone (not me)  asked them how old can a tire be and still be safe what they'd say?

I totally get it.

If I'm spending my dough on something "new", I expect it to be mostly that....Not 12 years old!

I just found out from Goodyear that these tires are still in production, so not discontinued and can't get new ones as PMCtire  told me was the situation.    PMCtire is saying their supplier bought a large amount of old tires from Goodyear  and are passing the savings on to me, didn't address that he lied and told me they were out of production.

[PJungnitsch]

I guess if you are just running a beater around town and they've been kept inside out of the sun all this time.

My BIL drove a motorhome to us with old tires, and when he arrived after a 10 hour trip they were disintegrating, steel belts poking out everywhere

Does the tread still seems reasonably soft? Not much of a winter tire if that hardened up

[sailor723]

Regardless, I agree about PMC Tire coming off looking pretty sketchy

[Fobroader]

Yeah, no, PMC looks really shady. Whenever I buy tires I tell buddy specifically that I want something made within the last 12-18 months, otherwise don't bother. Only have had Cambodian Tire turn their nose up at my request.

[Slow_lane]

Yeah, no, PMC looks really shady. Whenever I buy tires I tell buddy specifically that I want something made within the last 12-18 months, otherwise don't bother. Only have had Cambodian Tire turn their nose up at my request.

If I remember correctly PMC sent Blueprint a tire and wheel set up that did not meet load specs of the CX90 PHEV. Really makes me want to stay away from them.

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https://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=121073.200

[Layne]

Holy crap.

Light them on fire and send them back.

I kid, I kid.