Topic: Some People ...

[Gurgie]

W140 S-Class holds 100L.  Some pick ups hold way more than that.

i think the fuel tank in my buddy's F150 is about 150L.

EDIT: just checked Ford's website...136L...i'd hate to fill that. 

Trust me, I much prefer 136l to the 99l tank.  I wonder if it's even still available in Canada...maybe on the 2wd base model.  Had it on the '11, feckin' stupid size tank.  Horrible for towing...oh damn, we have to fill up again.  If only I had that extra 37l I could've made it to the gas station... (one time we just got to a station east of Regina with 20 km left, towing the trailer.  That was a crap shoot. Cussed Ford all day for that stupid 1st Edition EcoBoost faux-pas.  Extra 36l I could've made it past Regina, or at least had breathing room.)

My Tundra is 80L. Talk about undersized.

Yeah, that's not the greatest! My GC has a 93L tank, so full of diesel & I'm looking at ~1100km of all hwy in the summer, winter it's more like ~900km 

[Arthur Dent]

this one is an upside down one, but the sheer idiocy of the guy makes me think it goes in this thread...

guy was bankrupt... got out of that... then into proposal... slowly getting out of that...

but this guys smart idea is to lower his payments... on a 2016 base sxt van... financed sub prime... with a 41k buyout. because it costs too much on gas. so he wants a 200, or "possibly a 300"... so he's like 23000 upside down, and thinks it a smart plan to do that... you know.... to save a bit on fuel.

lucky for him, no bank seems to want to touch him.

How is that even possible that he got a loan for a 2016 after what is essentially two bankruptcies? I wouldn't lend that guy a dime no matter the interest rate.

[tooscoops]

yeah... higher rate... but surprisingly, not as bad as many i see... i think it was 11.9 or something...

... now, working the math backwards, it does mean if he sees the van loan out, he will have paid something like 65 grand for it including interest... good deal bud.

[dirtyjeffer]

W140 S-Class holds 100L.  Some pick ups hold way more than that.

i think the fuel tank in my buddy's F150 is about 150L.

EDIT: just checked Ford's website...136L...i'd hate to fill that. 

Trust me, I much prefer 136l to the 99l tank.  I wonder if it's even still available in Canada...maybe on the 2wd base model.  Had it on the '11, feckin' stupid size tank.  Horrible for towing...oh damn, we have to fill up again.  If only I had that extra 37l I could've made it to the gas station... (one time we just got to a station east of Regina with 20 km left, towing the trailer.  That was a crap shoot. Cussed Ford all day for that stupid 1st Edition EcoBoost faux-pas.  Extra 36l I could've made it past Regina, or at least had breathing room.)

yes, some of their models do have the smaller tank, which is 87L...his truck has the "tow package" and he thinks the larger fuel tank is part of that.

[Arthur Dent]

My wife's Ford F150 has that big tank. It lasts a long time but it sure hurts the wallet filing up from close to empty.

[tooscoops]

so often i get the customers who don't ask the fuel economy.. they ask how much it costs to fill the tank... then don't ask the follow up of how many kms they should expect from that.

[Ex-airbalancer]

so often i get the customers who don't ask the fuel economy.. they ask how much it costs to fill the tank... then don't ask the follow up of how many kms they should expect from that.

Km per tank is a pretty usually measurement when you are comparing cars

Prius maybe 40 L tank , and I can get 800 Kms
Truck , 92 L tank , I can get maybe 600 Kms

[ngorongoro]

so often i get the customers who don't ask the fuel economy.. they ask how much it costs to fill the tank... then don't ask the follow up of how many kms they should expect from that.

God help modern society...

[tooscoops]

so often i get the customers who don't ask the fuel economy.. they ask how much it costs to fill the tank... then don't ask the follow up of how many kms they should expect from that.

Km per tank is a pretty usually measurement when you are comparing cars

Prius maybe 40 L tank , and I can get 800 Kms
Truck , 92 L tank , I can get maybe 600 Kms

well, kms per tank only makes a difference if you know how big it is... same as the dumb question i get about how much to fill it... you need to know both numbers or you have one unknown variable which is highly important!

[johngenx]

Because people think "I use a tank a week" or some other measure.  Then if the car they're considering costs $80 to fill, well, then it's $80/week.  Blame the math teachers.  I had to cram calculus down their throats but wasn't allowed to spend time on everyday math.

[Solstice2006]

Because people think "I use a tank a week" or some other measure.  Then if the car they're considering costs $80 to fill, well, then it's $80/week.  Blame the math teachers.  I had to cram calculus down their throats but wasn't allowed to spend time on everyday math.

Is it the math teachers that develop the curriculum?  Or the "new" math? 

[johngenx]

Is it the math teachers that develop the curriculum?  Or the "new" math?

I wish.  Here it's Alberta Education, and they do hire math consultants, but they frequently have little in-classroom experience and lots of theoretical knowledge.  They also get a LOT of input and pressure from post-secondary institutions.  Which is why we've had a lot of outcomes pushed down from university to high school.  There's pressure from parent groups as well to increase the level of high-level theoretical math taught in high school.

I didn't enjoy teaching the university prep math classes very much.  So much pressure to teach to the standardized test and such stressed students.  I loved teaching every-day math skills in my "healthy and active living" program for special needs kids.  It was awesome.

[sailor723]

Is it the math teachers that develop the curriculum?  Or the "new" math?

I wish.  Here it's Alberta Education, and they do hire math consultants, but they frequently have little in-classroom experience and lots of theoretical knowledge.  They also get a LOT of input and pressure from post-secondary institutions.  Which is why we've had a lot of outcomes pushed down from university to high school.  There's pressure from parent groups as well to increase the level of high-level theoretical math taught in high school.

I didn't enjoy teaching the university prep math classes very much.  So much pressure to teach to the standardized test and such stressed students.  I loved teaching every-day math skills in my "healthy and active living" program for special needs kids.  It was awesome.

Seems to me that's what regular HS math should do.....teach math skills suited for everyday living in modern society. It's fine to offer courses for kids on the university BSc or engineering track but other than that.....

[tenpenny]

so often i get the customers who don't ask the fuel economy.. they ask how much it costs to fill the tank... then don't ask the follow up of how many kms they should expect from that.

They also want to know the monthly payment, not the number of years....


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[dirtyjeffer]

Seems to me that's what regular HS math should do.....teach math skills suited for everyday living in modern society. It's fine to offer courses for kids on the university BSc or engineering track but other than that.....

that's what they did at my high school...they offered "math for business" or something like that...i took it in Grade 12...no calculus, no trigonometry, etc...if you were going to university and/or into a field that needed it, you'd still have to take the math class that offered it as part of its curriculum...since i knew i'd never use that math, i took the "new" course instead...no point in stressing, struggling and/or failing (i likely wouldn't have failed) a course based on stuff you'll never use...to this day, i've never had to use it.

[Solstice2006]

Seems to me that's what regular HS math should do.....teach math skills suited for everyday living in modern society. It's fine to offer courses for kids on the university BSc or engineering track but other than that.....

that's what they did at my high school...they offered "math for business" or something like that...i took it in Grade 12...no calculus, no trigonometry, etc...if you were going to university and/or into a field that needed it, you'd still have to take the math class that offered it as part of its curriculum...since i knew i'd never use that math, i took the "new" course instead...no point in stressing, struggling and/or failing (i likely wouldn't have failed) a course based on stuff you'll never use...to this day, i've never had to use it.

I remember that as well.  You took business math if you weren't going to university.  Just wanted to do high school or college.  But it still lacked the everyday stuff in life.  I had some, but not enough. One chapter on how to calculate compound interest.  So you would get the idea.  But not enough on how it applies in the real world.  More emphasis should be made on car loans, mortgages, budgets, rrsp, investing. 

Advanced math that universities want lack all of the everyday stuff.  IMO, if you wanted to take the advanced math, the business math should be a prerequisite.  I remember it being a big jump from grade 10 math. 

Also wish there was a course that helped more with business.  I think there is now.  But starting a your business, stuff like that. 

[Dante]

The GTI has a 50 L tank which is a bit on the small side IMO. Even the Mini's tank is a bit bigger.

You know VW is not a trustworthy company. 

In two or three occasions I put 52-54 L in mine, unless Shell gas stations have cheating pumps.

However routinely I put max 50L even if the pump does not click.

[tooscoops]

this one isn't too bad that i am currently working with... but it is the usual type of thing i have to deal with. great people... like them a lot, so i want to make something work... but just reality makes it pretty tough.

but, they bought a new ram about a year ago (feb), loaded up (listed out at around 67k iirc) and they got a great deal. came in yesterday wondering about swapping up a year... figured it might cost them 7-8k... first off, no, just not quite the way it will work. new trucks generally go up in price and that first year is a tough one on depreciation. but also, she just hit 60000km. that truck dropped a heck of a lot more than 7-8k after that kind of use, even if we weren't doing a wholesale/retail comparison.

not the kind of thing that i'm sure many people think of, but it's just not how it works... if instead they did a one year lease on a truck like that, allowing 4500km/month, the payment would be astronomical. closest i can work with my program is a 24 month and just 2500km/month and it would be over 1200... one year, and nearly double the kms would be over 2k a month likely... so that truck should have dropped in value from what they paid by at least 20000.

anyway... who knows, they may still do something, but it is just tough having to go over the realities of depreciation and financial math with middle aged folk who aren't dumb by any means.

[OliverD]

The GTI has a 50 L tank which is a bit on the small side IMO. Even the Mini's tank is a bit bigger.

You know VW is not a trustworthy company. 

In two or three occasions I put 52-54 L in mine, unless Shell gas stations have cheating pumps.

However routinely I put max 50L even if the pump does not click.

What does your gas gauge say before you put in 50 L? I think the most I've put in is 46 L, and the gauge is sitting at the bottom of the red and the remaining range has been 0 for a while.

[dkaz]

When the dealer ads say:

"No matter your credit history"
"Pay off your trade"
"Get up to $12,000 cash back"
"We'll lend you money even if your momma won't!"

Can you truly blame them?