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Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« on: January 21, 2018, 07:27:38 pm »
I had a roll over accident on a dangerous winding, hilled road in December. Was during a heavy snowfall. Truck fishtailed on wet snow or ice. Was only going 40km, couldn't correct. Crossed opposite lane, hit rock cut head on, rolled landing on roof. I've only been driving trucks a couple years now. Just replaced the write off with a dodge ram 1500. Any tips for winter driving? Terrified it will happen again. 1cm of snow has me nervous. Same road is my main route to town. I only have the truck when my husband is away for work.

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2018, 07:41:37 pm »
Snow tires.
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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2018, 07:45:07 pm »
What kind of truck was it? But yes, snow tires are needed for optimum safety even when driving a 4x4 or AWD vehicle in winter conditions.

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2018, 07:51:15 pm »
What kind of truck was it? But yes, snow tires are needed for optimum safety even when driving a 4x4 or AWD vehicle in winter conditions.

It was a 2010 Ford F150. Installing winters on the ram next week. Would 4x4 have helped in this instance or would I have slid anyway?

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2018, 08:08:17 pm »
What kind of truck was it? But yes, snow tires are needed for optimum safety even when driving a 4x4 or AWD vehicle in winter conditions.

It was a 2010 Ford F150. Installing winters on the ram next week. Would 4x4 have helped in this instance or would I have slid anyway?

Hard to say really. If the tires are no good and can't grip, it won't matter much. I would say a good set of snow tires and driving to the conditions is the most important thing.

Also newer vehicles have stability control to mitigate a skid from oversteer or understeer. Not sure if your 2010 F150 would have been equipped with that feature or not.
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Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2018, 11:28:24 pm »
What kind of truck was it? But yes, snow tires are needed for optimum safety even when driving a 4x4 or AWD vehicle in winter conditions.

It was a 2010 Ford F150. Installing winters on the ram next week. Would 4x4 have helped in this instance or would I have slid anyway?

I’d say probably would...highly doubt you’d have fishtailed if you were in 4x4.

ESP could also have helped some...


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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2018, 02:44:00 am »
It was a 2010 Ford F150

That was 8 model years ago.  Current model 1/2 tons are very stable.  RAM has auto 4 wheel drive.  Good winter tires and no issues.
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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2018, 06:10:34 am »
4 good winter tires will go a long way in preventing that kind of thing.

I'll leave it to others who are more truck knowledgeable to answer this one but is it still good practise in modern pickups to add weight to the bed to even up the front to rear weight  distribution?
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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2018, 09:18:58 am »
In my experience being in 4x4 does make the truck a lot more stable.  And if it starts to slide it's WAY easier to catch. 

But if you were going downhill with the brakes on I doubt it would have made a lot of difference.  It's really when applying the power that it makes a big difference.


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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2018, 09:28:46 am »
Is the new RAM 1500 a 4x4? Also, what winter tires are you installing? Hopefully a higher rated model & not some cheap Chinese ones.
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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2018, 10:20:13 am »
As mentioned above good tires makes the one of biggest differences in winter driving.  I like to keep some weight in the box rather than driving with it empty, but just make sure it is secured properly.  The last thing you want is something heavy flailing around back there if you do start to slide.  I keep several bags of traction sand back there for weight and to use if i do get stuck.

Also, if you are not familiar, or comfortable with driving in slippery conditions then have someone that is a competent winter driver take your vehicle somewhere (big empty slippery parking lot) so that you can practice sliding avoidance techniques.  Getting familiar with the dynamics of your vehicle will help you make the proper corrections if you do break traction and start to slide.  I did this with my wife many years ago and it made her a little more comfortable and competent winter driver.     

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2018, 11:24:39 am »
Losing control like you did is all about traction. with the two most important things are speed and your contact patch. in the winter, get winter tires... too many people that i sell trucks to seem to think 4x4 means they don't need winter rubber.... 4x4 might still get you going in conditions where a 4x2 would be stuck, but for regular traction and stopping, the correct tires make a huge difference.

also, don't just assume you are in a truck so you can go whatever speed you want. sometimes half the speed limit is too fast. you need experience to really know how to do that part of it, but just keep an eye on other cars around you. personally, i do little "tests" to check traction every once in a while to see how bad it is (only when everything is controlled of course).

as for the 4x4, IF the truck has the auto 4x4 then ya, use it in most winter conditions. if it is a regular transfer case with just 2wd, 4hi, 4low, then up to you. My rule of thumb is if i have to alter my speed significantly, it is likely worth it to pop it in 4x4.
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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2018, 11:44:28 am »


as for the 4x4, IF the truck has the auto 4x4 then ya, use it in most winter conditions. if it is a regular transfer case with just 2wd, 4hi, 4low, then up to you. My rule of thumb is if i have to alter my speed significantly, it is likely worth it to pop it in 4x4.

Auto 4x4 is great on a day like today, raining, temperture is around 1°, never know when black ice will form

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2018, 12:20:19 pm »
Snow tires and a limited slip/locking rear end will keep you on the straight and narrow. Also 4x4 is always recommended for poor conditions.
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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2018, 01:04:59 pm »
I thought locking diffs were no good in icy conditions.

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #15 on: January 22, 2018, 02:46:30 pm »
Limited slip diffs don't really lock. Not the same as a low speed diff lock.  I think limited slip diffs are a positive in any environment.

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #16 on: January 22, 2018, 02:49:13 pm »
I thought locking diffs were no good in icy conditions.

Why, makes the vehicle very predictable

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #17 on: January 22, 2018, 03:08:28 pm »
I would think because it would be easy to get both wheels to spin a the same time meaning a quick loss in traction.

Now LSDs, I understand how they could be useful.

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #18 on: January 22, 2018, 03:09:17 pm »
1cm of snow has me nervous. Same road is my main route to town.

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Re: Winter driving safety - 4x4 pickup truck
« Reply #19 on: January 25, 2018, 12:56:46 pm »
How do all these FWD and RWD cars manage to stay on the road on bad winter days?

Oh yes, winter tires and slow the :censor: down.