Topic: First Drive: 2018 Toyota Camry

[Noto]

What's not to like?

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Making our way back to the big stupid grilles of the 1950s, but in black plastic instead of chrome. 

[greengs]

Um the 2018 Camry XLE V6 tops out at $40,945 and a 2017 Lexus ES350 starts at $43,300. No word yet if the 2018 ES350 will get the new engine and transmission or not.

If you click taxes and levies a new Camry XLE V6 is $48,000.  Prices are up 3-4 grand over 2017.  New car prices in Canada have gotten ridiculous in last 3 years. 

[dkaz]

Um the 2018 Camry XLE V6 tops out at $40,945 and a 2017 Lexus ES350 starts at $43,300. No word yet if the 2018 ES350 will get the new engine and transmission or not.

If you click taxes and levies a new Camry XLE V6 is $48,000.  Prices are up 3-4 grand over 2017.  New car prices in Canada have gotten ridiculous in last 3 years. 

Ah so the Camry is subject to those taxes and ES350 is not, gotcha.

[greengs]

Um the 2018 Camry XLE V6 tops out at $40,945 and a 2017 Lexus ES350 starts at $43,300. No word yet if the 2018 ES350 will get the new engine and transmission or not.

If you click taxes and levies a new Camry XLE V6 is $48,000.  Prices are up 3-4 grand over 2017.  New car prices in Canada have gotten ridiculous in last 3 years. 

Ah so the Camry is subject to those taxes and ES350 is not, gotcha.

My comment was about how the new Camry V6 is now $4,000 more than the outgoing model and that it's approaching $50,000.  I usually don't complain about pricing especially top trim levels, but when we approach $50k on a Camry that's a bit of an eye opener.   

[EV-Light]

Um the 2018 Camry XLE V6 tops out at $40,945 and a 2017 Lexus ES350 starts at $43,300. No word yet if the 2018 ES350 will get the new engine and transmission or not.

If you click taxes and levies a new Camry XLE V6 is $48,000.  Prices are up 3-4 grand over 2017.  New car prices in Canada have gotten ridiculous in last 3 years. 

Ah so the Camry is subject to those taxes and ES350 is not, gotcha.

My comment was about how the new Camry V6 is now $4,000 more than the outgoing model and that it's approaching $50,000.  I usually don't complain about pricing especially top trim levels, but when we approach $50k on a Camry that's a bit of an eye opener.

that is pricey! one would have to be stupid to not consider the Fusion Sport at $46k all taxes in at that range.

[rrocket]

Um the 2018 Camry XLE V6 tops out at $40,945 and a 2017 Lexus ES350 starts at $43,300. No word yet if the 2018 ES350 will get the new engine and transmission or not.

If you click taxes and levies a new Camry XLE V6 is $48,000.  Prices are up 3-4 grand over 2017.  New car prices in Canada have gotten ridiculous in last 3 years. 

Ah so the Camry is subject to those taxes and ES350 is not, gotcha.

My comment was about how the new Camry V6 is now $4,000 more than the outgoing model and that it's approaching $50,000.  I usually don't complain about pricing especially top trim levels, but when we approach $50k on a Camry that's a bit of an eye opener.

that is pricey! one would have to be stupid to not consider the Fusion Sport at $46k all taxes in at that range.

OTD pricing is within $1500. 

But yea, you'd look at everything in the category.

[dkaz]

Gotta love Ford Employee Pricing.

[Jaeger]

$50k for a Camry? Get stuffed. Not my $50k.

[Fobroader]

$50k for a Camry? Get stuffed. Not my $50k.

Yeah....its a nice car I'm sure, for $35k. At $50k there are a lot more entertaining options.

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[johngenx]

With most cars, the most option'd out trim is usually a poor value, and the Camry is no exception.  The base V-6 is the way I'd go.  I suspect a mid level I-4 is what 80-90% of buyers are rolling away in.

[EV-Light]

With most cars, the most option'd out trim is usually a poor value, and the Camry is no exception.  The base V-6 is the way I'd go.  I suspect a mid level I-4 is what 80-90% of buyers are rolling away in.

Hmmm Toyota went a bit too far with pricing this time around! Can’t see why they’d increase prices by 5k!


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[EvanWilliams]

The centre stack squiggle has been used in the Lexus RX since 2010...

Yes, that is also nasty.

They got it right with the IS350, imo:

That might be my fault on the photo, but the center stack does work in person. Very well. Especially if you take a look at last year's. I like it better than the IS350 (as far as design)which l actually drove immediately after the Camry. That's ignoring that the IS is much more snug inside and puts the cup holders where the passenger's arm needs to go.

[tortoise]

Hmmm Toyota went a bit too far with pricing this time around! Can’t see why they’d increase prices by 5k!

This might have something to do with it:

[Weels]

That might be my fault on the photo, but the center stack does work in person. Very well. Especially if you take a look at last year's. I like it better than the IS350 (as far as design)which l actually drove immediately after the Camry. That's ignoring that the IS is much more snug inside and puts the cup holders where the passenger's arm needs to go.

Nothing wrong with your photo.. i'll take your word it works when you're in front of it with butt in driver seat.
Still, would take a cpo'd IS350 before any Camry.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Hmmm Toyota went a bit too far with pricing this time around! Can’t see why they’d increase prices by 5k!

This might have something to do with it:

Sitting right at $0.80 at the moment. The greenback started to tank right around January 20th for some mysterious reason. 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

The centre stack squiggle has been used in the Lexus RX since 2010...

Yes, that is also nasty.

They got it right with the IS350, imo:

That might be my fault on the photo, but the center stack does work in person. Very well. Especially if you take a look at last year's. I like it better than the IS350 (as far as design)which l actually drove immediately after the Camry. That's ignoring that the IS is much more snug inside and puts the cup holders where the passenger's arm needs to go.

 

[Jaeger]

The centre stack squiggle has been used in the Lexus RX since 2010...

Yes, that is also nasty.

They got it right with the IS350, imo:

That might be my fault on the photo, but the center stack does work in person. Very well. Especially if you take a look at last year's. I like it better than the IS350 (as far as design)which l actually drove immediately after the Camry. That's ignoring that the IS is much more snug inside and puts the cup holders where the passenger's arm needs to go.

 

    Yeah.  Unless that photo wasn't actually of the Camry, then it's not the photo.

[whaddaiknow]

The centre stack squiggle has been used in the Lexus RX since 2010...

Yes, that is also nasty.

They got it right with the IS350, imo:

Evan, I will agree with you. My initial reaction was to the photo. Then I watched a dozen of different reviews where NO ONE actually mentioned anything negative about the center stack. I like the Camry, always have, and I believe the price is about right given the level of equipment that comes standard.
I paid $27,500 + Delivery + PDI + GST + PST for a Camry LE V6 back in 2002. 180HP V6, 4-speed auto, 15" allow wheels with ABS - that's about it in terms of equipment.

That might be my fault on the photo, but the center stack does work in person. Very well. Especially if you take a look at last year's. I like it better than the IS350 (as far as design)which l actually drove immediately after the Camry. That's ignoring that the IS is much more snug inside and puts the cup holders where the passenger's arm needs to go.

[dkaz]

Evan, I will agree with you. My initial reaction was to the photo. Then I watched a dozen of different reviews where NO ONE actually mentioned anything negative about the center stack. I like the Camry, always have, and I believe the price is about right given the level of equipment that comes standard.
I paid $27,500 + Delivery + PDI + GST + PST for a Camry LE V6 back in 2002. 180HP V6, 4-speed auto, 15" allow wheels with ABS - that's about it in terms of equipment.

That's about $37k with inflation.