Author Topic: 2018 Camry (Read 31201 times)

miguelaraujo · « **Reply #100 on:** June 24, 2017, 08:06:07 pm »

look very nice

EV Dan · « **Reply #101 on:** June 24, 2017, 09:50:31 pm »

2018 Camry Hybrid US specs:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases/2018+toyota+camry+hybrid+product+info+sheet.download

EV Dan · « **Reply #102 on:** June 25, 2017, 02:13:29 pm »

A good first drive review of the Hybrid:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCKH8T1bptY

rrocket · « **Reply #103 on:** June 25, 2017, 04:10:25 pm »

He's a bit painful to listen to..

gord_boyd · « **Reply #104 on:** June 25, 2017, 07:23:16 pm »

When you consider vacations / snowbird travel, you very quickly see the benefits
of a quiet V6 sedan with extra safety. My wife and I just went thru' Seattle Homeland Security
--tsa.gov. Airports can be hell and my wife's two new knees doesn't start things right when you arrive.
She had an extra agressive, badge-proud cadet who put her fingers everywhere to the point my wife was in tears. After she calmed down she said we are not flying anywhere for a long time (but going to India business class was acceptable this coming Sept. ).
I agreed with her. I'd rather have a luxury ride, even if a few extra days required, than to put up with security/airplane and airport madness that has become common fare.

dougjp · « **Reply #105 on:** June 25, 2017, 07:59:50 pm »

Quote from: gord_boyd on June 25, 2017, 07:23:16 pm

When you consider vacations / snowbird travel, you very quickly see the benefits
of a quiet V6 sedan with extra safety. My wife and I just went thru' Seattle Homeland Security
--tsa.gov. Airports can be hell and my wife's two new knees doesn't start things right when you arrive.
She had an extra agressive, badge-proud cadet who put her fingers everywhere to the point my wife was in tears. After she calmed down she said we are not flying anywhere for a long time (but going to India business class was acceptable this coming Sept. ).
I agreed with her. I'd rather have a luxury ride, even if a few extra days required, than to put up with security/airplane and airport madness that has become common fare.

You make a very good point, and its a story that's sad to read. Then you get on the plane just when you think you can't take any more, and round two of the aggravation begins.

If it wasn't for changes in latitude, warmth, and/or the various problems/exchange rates with the US, I'd never fly again. Yet we keep doing it, as if we can't stop going for the abuse.

Maybe modern day air travel should have its own off-topic topic. or just add it to The Things....Sad, Angry and Upset.

johngenx · « **Reply #106 on:** June 25, 2017, 08:25:41 pm »

Yeah, I'd rather drive for days and days on end than fly - the whole thing is painful. I agree that cars like this Camry make auto travel even better - they're so smooth and comfortable and fuel efficient.

EV Dan · « **Reply #107 on:** June 25, 2017, 10:40:05 pm »

Quote from: johngenx on June 25, 2017, 08:25:41 pm

Yeah, I'd rather drive for days and days on end than fly - the whole thing is painful. I agree that cars like this Camry make auto travel even better - they're so smooth and comfortable and fuel efficient.

While I get the advantage and fun of effortless acceleration at any speed of a modern V6, I'd rather a hybrid for long distance travel. Maybe it's a sign of cheapness, but getting nearly twice the miles from a tank of gas would surely put a smile on my face.

johngenx · « **Reply #108 on:** June 25, 2017, 10:45:36 pm »

^^^ Oh, yeah, the hybrid would be the choice for long distance trips!

johngenx · « **Reply #109 on:** June 25, 2017, 10:52:57 pm »

Quote from: stodge on June 25, 2017, 10:52:08 pm

Quote from: johngenx on June 25, 2017, 10:45:36 pm
^^^ Oh, yeah, the hybrid would be the choice for long distance trips!

In fantasy land where EVs fully charge in ten minutes and there are charging stations every 200km.

The Camry hybrid needs no charging station. It's not an EV.

johngenx · « **Reply #110 on:** June 25, 2017, 11:02:35 pm »

Quote from: stodge on June 25, 2017, 10:55:12 pm

My mistake I thought he was going on about an EV.

Since he does 99.99999999999% of the time, we'll give you a pass this time...

EV Dan · « **Reply #111 on:** June 25, 2017, 11:21:38 pm »

Quote from: johngenx on June 25, 2017, 11:02:35 pm

Quote from: stodge on June 25, 2017, 10:55:12 pm
My mistake I thought he was going on about an EV.

Since he does 99.99999999999% of the time, we'll give you a pass this time...

You guys confuse me with someone else, as I'm having a hybrid phase these days

Noto · « **Reply #112 on:** June 26, 2017, 10:14:14 am »

Quote from: EV Dan on June 24, 2017, 09:50:31 pm

2018 Camry Hybrid US specs:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases/2018+toyota+camry+hybrid+product+info+sheet.download

No heated seats on LE Hybrid, otherwise it's plenty equipped and I'd see no reason to go up to SE or XLE. The LE even gets radar adaptive cruise, smart key, auto climate!!

The SE makes the least sense to me of all. It's really just about visuals, so why pay the fuel penalty? ...unless you really need SoftTex instead of fabric seats.

The LE with aftermarket heated seats is a screaming deal.

EV Dan · « **Reply #113 on:** June 26, 2017, 11:40:06 am »

Quote from: No-san on June 26, 2017, 10:14:14 am

Quote from: EV Dan on June 24, 2017, 09:50:31 pm
2018 Camry Hybrid US specs:
http://pressroom.toyota.com/releases/2018+toyota+camry+hybrid+product+info+sheet.download
No heated seats on LE Hybrid, otherwise it's plenty equipped and I'd see no reason to go up to SE or XLE. The LE even gets radar adaptive cruise, smart key, auto climate!!

The SE makes the least sense to me of all. It's really just about visuals, so why pay the fuel penalty? ...unless you really need SoftTex instead of fabric seats.

The LE with aftermarket heated seats is a screaming deal.

I'd probably need a set of alloy wheels to re-mount oem tires on, while using existing steelies for winters.

ArticSteve · « **Reply #114 on:** June 26, 2017, 01:53:30 pm »

Talking about lipstick on a PIG! The battery for the SE and XLE is unchanged. Electric power all models is DOWN considerably

ICE is up. Total output is up 8hp, but is that 8 due to the use of premo gas.

Front seat leg room is still poor @ 42.1 inches. It's just a seat track Toyota.

Tires are a big improvement @ 235/45/18 while the LE remains @ 205/65/16 which is pretty well undriveable.

dkaz · « **Reply #115 on:** June 26, 2017, 01:54:53 pm »

I'd be baffled if the Canadian LE didn't get heated seats. A lot of Canadian market cars get heated seats in lower trim levels than the Americans do.

The info sheet says regular gas...

ArticSteve · « **Reply #116 on:** June 26, 2017, 01:59:31 pm »

Quote from: DKaz on June 26, 2017, 01:54:53 pm

I'd be baffled if the Canadian LE didn't get heated seats. A lot of Canadian market cars get heated seats in lower trim levels than the Americans do.

The info sheet says regular gas...

87-octane or higher - unleaded

The LE will not get heated seats. Heated seats are available on the base XLE along with the driver's 6 way power seat with lumbar.

The option packing remains the same as the 2017s right back to the 2012s. This is how Toyota rolls. Other than the battery in the LE, suspension changes and the body changes, not a revolutionary leap. Disappointed in the electric part of the equation.

dkaz · « **Reply #117 on:** June 26, 2017, 02:18:50 pm »

You're sure about that in Canada? I haven't seen any Canadian specs yet.

Corolla LE and up in Canada gets heated seats while you need an XLE/XSE in the US. Mind you, there is no XLE/XSE trim in Canada.

Heated seats are a staple in Canada, I don't see how Toyota can get away with selling a Camry without them except maybe in a CE trim if they decide to make one.

Noto · « **Reply #118 on:** June 26, 2017, 02:20:31 pm »

Actually, I was wrong, and now Steve is very wrong:

Quote

STANDARD INTERIOR FEATURES
LE Hybrid
Fabric-trimmed heated front seats with seatback pockets; 8-way power-adjustable driver's seat with power lumbar support; 6-way adjustable front passenger seat

I could have sworn it didn't say heated - but I'm wrong, and I'll admit it. My bad.

So, a lot of our concerns lifted - heated front seats, and 87 octane gas. Huzzah! Camry LE!

ArticSteve · « **Reply #119 on:** June 26, 2017, 02:31:43 pm »

Actually, I was wrong, and now Steve is very wrong:

Well played!

Up to and including 2017 LE's had no power or heated seat. Only recourse was the base XLE for not much $$ more. It was the typical Toyota up sell.

HOWEVER, the jury is not yet spoken. This is a US spec sheet and I will remind you once again it is a DIFFERENT company. The Canadian Toyota distributor is not owned or operated by the US Toyota operation so we will see how Toyota Canada decides to market/package the Camry Hybrid models.