Author Topic: 2025 BMW M5 Wagon Confirmed for U.S. (Read 2580 times)

PJungnitsch · « **Reply #20 on:** April 05, 2024, 04:45:15 pm »

Crossover station wagon maybe? Seems to me you lift a vehicle it's still that vehicle.

Never heard of anyone saying a lifted pickup isn't a pickup any more

ktm525 · « **Reply #21 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:04:04 pm »

On my registration my LR4 is referred to as a wagon...

On a more serious note. I tried the wagon route raising kids (3). In the end they just weren't as practical as a SUV for a number of reasons. The low entry height was a PITA while the kids were in buckets and seats until they could scamper in themselves. Even loading cargo was a step down rather than straight across (I am taller though). The wagons were supperior in one aspect and that was I could still pull in the garage with the ski box attached.

How many of you used wagons in your kid raising years? I had a couple and they were manuals too. In the end the LR3 and LR4 were better fits for us (and still are). The wife may look at a mid wagon as the nest is close to empty but she also has a wandering eye for a Land Cruiser or Lexus GX.

ktm525 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:05:38 pm »

Replaced by the V70R

ktm525 · « **Reply #23 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:06:28 pm »

Note the ski box in the garage.

ktm525 · « **Reply #24 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:09:47 pm »

Replaced by a tall wagon.

ktm525 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:12:33 pm »

Superseded by a LR4 which is still looking good 14 years on (12 in the pic I think)

ktm525 · « **Reply #26 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:15:11 pm »

and I guess we added a XC60 which is sort of a wagon in my mind. Doesn't handle or brake as well as the the V70R but ride is much better and it is faster..

tortoise · « **Reply #27 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:36:15 pm »

When the kids were young we had a manual Mazda5. It was perfect for when the kids were in car seats and it had enough room to carry everything. As a bonus we could slide the skis in between the captains chairs so we never needed a roof box.

We run roof boxes on both cars all winter and it's so so much easier on the Golf vs the Highlander.

tortoise · « **Reply #28 on:** April 05, 2024, 05:37:57 pm »

Quote from: PJungnitsch on April 05, 2024, 04:45:15 pm

Crossover station wagon maybe? Seems to me you lift a vehicle it's still that vehicle.

Never heard of anyone saying a lifted pickup isn't a pickup any more

It's not just the ride height. It's a lot taller in profile than a conventional wagon.

I know I'm splitting hairs, but I'll defend it's not a wagon to the death!

ktm525 · « **Reply #29 on:** April 05, 2024, 06:04:00 pm »

The XC60 is pretty low for a CUV. Compared to the LR4 it seems about 1m lower lol. The XC60 will fit in the garage with a ski box although it is rarely run.

OliverD · « **Reply #30 on:** April 05, 2024, 07:17:14 pm »

Quote from: tortoise on April 05, 2024, 05:37:57 pm

Quote from: PJungnitsch on April 05, 2024, 04:45:15 pm
Crossover station wagon maybe? Seems to me you lift a vehicle it's still that vehicle.

Never heard of anyone saying a lifted pickup isn't a pickup any more
It's not just the ride height. It's a lot taller in profile than a conventional wagon.

I know I'm splitting hairs, but I'll defend it's not a wagon to the death!

You are 100% correct.

ktm525 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 05, 2024, 07:21:28 pm »

So what profile height are we using as a definition?

OliverD · « **Reply #32 on:** April 05, 2024, 07:25:39 pm »

Quote from: ktm525 on April 05, 2024, 07:21:28 pm

So what profile height are we using as a definition?

I think relative different compared to the sedan version is what counts, and the Outback is 7" taller than the Legacy.

ktm525 · « **Reply #33 on:** April 06, 2024, 12:03:07 am »

Is this a wagon? It's been jacked 1.5" Might make it passable in the winter.

tortoise · « **Reply #34 on:** April 06, 2024, 01:18:07 am »

Yeah, that's a wagon. Wagon body with a slight lift... The VW Alltrack is also a wagon.

Jaeger · « **Reply #35 on:** April 06, 2024, 06:26:25 am »

Quote from: tortoise on April 05, 2024, 05:36:15 pm

When the kids were young we had a manual Mazda5.

That was a seriously under-appreciated vehicle.

Allen · « **Reply #36 on:** April 06, 2024, 09:57:13 am »

RS6 is the beast you want for a wagon

ktm525 · « **Reply #37 on:** April 06, 2024, 10:27:14 am »

Quote from: Allen on April 06, 2024, 09:57:13 am

RS6 is the beast you want for a wagon

Why? You certainly aren't hoon driving with the family on vacation. Anything more than 30 km/h over the limit can get your car seized and a court date in BC. To go to the track? Wouldn't you be better off with a Honda Pilot and a track car?

Allen · « **Reply #38 on:** April 06, 2024, 10:33:59 am »

Ahh forgot the rest of you don't have hwy 407

ktm525 · « **Reply #39 on:** April 06, 2024, 10:41:18 am »

Quote from: Allen on April 06, 2024, 10:33:59 am

Ahh forgot the rest of you don't have hwy 407

Is that an abandoned airstrip?