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2025 Kia K4
« on: March 23, 2024, 03:00:00 pm »
Kia has revealed the 2025 version of its K4 sedan. A replacement for the KIA forte. the K4, will offer a range of engine options, although specific details have not been provided. The rear and side of the cars profile...Um, and check out those brake lights, I don't know if it is me, it a bit odd looking. FX clarity odd. :(

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a60265708/2025-kia-k4-revealed/








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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2024, 03:48:01 pm »
The D-pillar is an abomination. 
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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2024, 09:11:28 am »
Ewww...Kia...what have you done!


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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2024, 10:38:44 am »
Ewww...Kia...what have you done

Opposites United according to KIA.  ???



I find the side profile very pony too.  :)


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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #4 on: March 27, 2024, 11:45:24 am »
More info on the KIA K4, The 2025 Kia K4 sedan, set to go on sale in the United States later this year. It comes with two powertrain options: a standard 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine paired with a CVT, and an optional turbocharged 1.6-liter four-cylinder engine paired with an eight-speed automatic transmission. The latter option generates 190 horsepower and 195 lb-ft of torque. KIA K4 is also available in LX, LXS, EX, GT-Line, and GT-Line Turbo.

https://www.motor1.com/news/713951/2025-kia-k4-engines-trims-specs/





That really looks awful from the back.  There is also a hatch back too.




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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2024, 12:19:30 pm »
The hatch at least looks cohesive. The sedan looks like they chopped the hatch off and paired it with the back end of something else.

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2024, 12:17:37 am »
It does not look like Peter Schreyer, long time iconic Head of Design is hand's on with Hyundai/Kia designs anymore. Vehicles designed by him such as the two previous generation of the Forte, the G70, G80,G90, the prior generation Hyundai Tucson among many others have that classic, timeless design ethos.

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2024, 01:01:51 am »
It does not look like Peter Schreyer, long time iconic Head of Design is hand's on with Hyundai/Kia designs anymore.

I've been pretty disappointed with his tenure....because it sure seemed the talent was there but with only flashes of brilliance.
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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2024, 04:52:20 pm »
The hatch looks way better than the sedan. Same is true of current model. But as I write this I realized I do not see many current Forte 5's around. Vastly outnumbered by sedan. I am surprised by this.  I even checked the KIA website to see if it still being sold.


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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2024, 05:36:34 pm »
Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.

In all fairness though, the ugliness is a built-in feature of most new cars these days.

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #10 on: March 28, 2024, 05:53:03 pm »
Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.

In all fairness though, the ugliness is a built-in feature of most new cars these days.

I thought our 2015 Kia Forte 5 was really sharp looking. But that was 9 years ago. Sold before engine blew up or it caught fire.  :D

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #11 on: March 28, 2024, 06:32:10 pm »
Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.

In all fairness though, the ugliness is a built-in feature of most new cars these days.

I thought our 2015 Kia Forte 5 was really sharp looking. But that was 9 years ago. Sold before engine blew up or it caught fire.  :D

Yes, a decade+ ago things were different. Even some Hyundai looked decent back then.

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #12 on: March 28, 2024, 06:33:05 pm »


Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.



I personally doubt it.

If that's the case, why pay big $$ to poach the guy only to have him defer to some Korean design guy language? 

Doesn't make sense.


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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #13 on: March 28, 2024, 06:36:32 pm »

Yes, a decade+ ago things were different. Even some Hyundai looked decent back then.

My 2010 Sonata was a great looking car.  Better looking than each following generation, imho.

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2024, 06:42:11 pm »


Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.



I personally doubt it.

If that's the case, why pay big $$ to poach the guy only to have him defer to some Korean design guy language? 

Doesn't make sense.

Lots of things don't appear to make sense unless you have the big picture.
Few millions is nothing for Hyundai but huge at the time for their corporate image.
Of course I'm only speculating here, but isn't this what we do most of the time?

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2024, 08:39:27 pm »


Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.



I personally doubt it.

If that's the case, why pay big $$ to poach the guy only to have him defer to some Korean design guy language? 

Doesn't make sense.

Lots of things don't appear to make sense unless you have the big picture.
Few millions is nothing for Hyundai but huge at the time for their corporate image.
Of course I'm only speculating here, but isn't this what we do most of the time?

So you want to improve your corporate image not by his design (exclusively what he's known for), but by his name only...which means zippo to most people.

Your big picture is different than my big picture. LOL [emoji38]
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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2024, 10:07:38 pm »




Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.



I personally doubt it.

If that's the case, why pay big $$ to poach the guy only to have him defer to some Korean design guy language? 

Doesn't make sense.

Lots of things don't appear to make sense unless you have the big picture.
Few millions is nothing for Hyundai but huge at the time for their corporate image.
Of course I'm only speculating here, but isn't this what we do most of the time?

So you want to improve your corporate image not by his design (exclusively what he's known for), but by his name only?

Your big picture is different than my big picture. LOL [emoji38]

This is not what I said at all and I'll leave it at that.

Funny, I was watching an old TV series as I was typing this, and an early Hyundai Genesis was featured in a couple of scenes. THAT was a properly nice design - elegant, timeless, understated, very German-like...and I think it was designed under his early years at Hyundai. Or Genesis G70)80/90.

If he had anything to do with the recent Elantra/Sonata, without a gun at his head, he must've lost it.
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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #17 on: March 28, 2024, 10:58:49 pm »
My 2010 Sonata was a great looking car.  Better looking than each following generation, imho.

That definitely aged more gracefully than the next generation, even though it did help put Hyundai on the map. The engine though…

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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #18 on: March 28, 2024, 11:36:25 pm »




Another Kia/Hyundai abomination.
I'm pretty sure Schreyer had to work within corporate/Korean design philosophy constraints, hence less than stellar results.



I personally doubt it.

If that's the case, why pay big $$ to poach the guy only to have him defer to some Korean design guy language? 

Doesn't make sense.

Lots of things don't appear to make sense unless you have the big picture.
Few millions is nothing for Hyundai but huge at the time for their corporate image.
Of course I'm only speculating here, but isn't this what we do most of the time?

So you want to improve your corporate image not by his design (exclusively what he's known for), but by his name only?

Your big picture is different than my big picture. LOL [emoji38]

This is not what I said at all and I'll leave it at that.

Funny, I was watching an old TV series as I was typing this, and an early Hyundai Genesis was featured in a couple of scenes. THAT was a properly nice design - elegant, timeless, understated, very German-like...and I think it was designed under his early years at Hyundai. Or Genesis G70)80/90.

If he had anything to do with the recent Elantra/Sonata, without a gun at his head, he must've lost it.
In fairness to him, he's no longer the Chief Design Officer (or whatever Hyundai calls that position). Which, from my understanding, means he no longer actually pens any designs. And it's been several years since any of his penned designs were last used.

But certainly as President of Design Management, he should have a pretty strong, guiding influence. Or at least had enough sense to say "Ehhhh...maybe not this time" for some of the designs.

But then I have also read that some designers are really loathe to "constrain" the designs of other designers much at all. They are, after all, artists..and artists support artists even if the design is...different. But at some point I wished I would have seen some better guidance from him. It's on him exclusively IMO. And so in that regard he's disappointed me.

But Iook at Genesis. Mostly great designs with absolutely interesting design elements (spectacular wheel design for example). So clearly the talent or direction for good or even great design exists within Hyundai Motor Group.


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Re: 2025 Kia K4
« Reply #19 on: March 28, 2024, 11:39:04 pm »
As far as bad designs is concerned the 2024 Hyundai IONIQ 6 takes the cake to my eye. I saw one in a parking lot yesterday. I looked (not too hard mind you) but did not see badging but suspect it was a Hyundia design as it seems to look like an evolution of the latest Sonata (which I am not crazy about either)

The droopy ass design bugs me. I find in this case this car looks better in pictures that it does in real life.

The 2024 Hyundai IONIQ 5 looks pretty sharp on the other hand.
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