Topic: What Motorcycle Have You Been Obsessing About Today?

[rrocket]

^^^ Yup.  When you have a bike that has less than 3lbs to move for every horsepower and a pretty wide band of usable power, why short gear it?  Many of those bikes are already wheelie-prone.  They can use those super tall gears.

When I was test riding the XSR 900, I was testing acceleration in 6th gear at 60km/h (2500-2800 rpm?) uphill. It still accelerated at a decent rate.

Are people to lazy to downshift if they do need to really accelerate?

Lazy has nothing to do with it. Some bikes have such massive torque, there's no need to downshift.

[wing]

Right.

But what I was saying and I think what DKaz is saying.

That you can accelerate up the hill in a lower powered bike too.  You just have to downshift. 

I've seen video reviews where guys are riding a 600 and then complain, oh I need a litre bike see, because going up this hill I can't make it in 6th gear.

Ummm?

[rrocket]

Right.

But what I was saying and I think what DKaz is saying.

That you can accelerate up the hill in a lower powered bike too.  You just have to downshift. 

I've seen video reviews where guys are riding a 600 and then complain, oh I need a litre bike see, because going up this hill I can't make it in 6th gear.

Ummm?

Yea, I don't know WTF that is all about

[dkaz]

I was talking about people complaining their big engine bikes somehow don't have enough power in 6th gear to climb up hill because the gear is too tall.

[wing]

Yeah so same thing, just downshift.

[Sir Osis of Liver]

My FZ6 pulled about 5000rpm (redline was ~14,500rpm) in 6th at ~100kph. It wasn't quite in the power band, but it certainly had no issues climbing hills without a downshift.

People are nuts.

[dirtyjeffer]

People are nuts.

^^^

QFT.

[wing]

Funny enough -- as expected.

Watch some YouTube videos.

Americans complain a 600-900 is slow.

Brits say a 600 is a rocket ship.

[Triple Bob]

^^^ Yup.  When you have a bike that has less than 3lbs to move for every horsepower and a pretty wide band of usable power, why short gear it?  Many of those bikes are already wheelie-prone.  They can use those super tall gears.

When I was test riding the XSR 900, I was testing acceleration in 6th gear at 60km/h (2500-2800 rpm?) uphill. It still accelerated at a decent rate.

Are people to lazy to downshift if they do need to really accelerate?

Sometimes you just want to twist your wrist and get past someone, nothing to do with being lazy.  On the highway in 5th you can get between 80 and 140 very quickly indeed without changing gear, it makes getting through traffic very smooth and safe.  Nothing lazy about it, it's just a feature of a larger or more torquey engine.

[dkaz]

Sometimes you just want to twist your wrist and get past someone, nothing to do with being lazy.  On the highway in 5th you can get between 80 and 140 very quickly indeed without changing gear, it makes getting through traffic very smooth and safe.  Nothing lazy about it, it's just a feature of a larger or more torquey engine.

What about the people complaining that your FZ-09 is too slow to accelerate in 6th gear?

[wing]

Still like the octane,  now that victory was shut down they are clearing them out for 9k (from 12.5k) so tempting.   

If only insurance wasn't stoopid

[mlin32]

Funny enough -- as expected.

Watch some YouTube videos.

Americans complain a 600-900 is slow.

Brits say a 600 is a rocket ship.

It all depends on perspective. I come from a history of "slow" cars by North American standards.

I think my 320cc is plenty fast. Sure, if I overtake on a two-lane road (70-120km/h), I must shift down to 3rd or 4th to quickly overtake a couple cars, but I'm okay with that. But even on the autor-errr I mean freeway, if I want to get by a tractor-trailer 100-130, I can do it quickly enough in 6th without slowing the left lane.

Then again, when I rode on the instructor's S1000R at the track.......that's a whole kind of fast I haven't experienced in my life until that day. Do I need it to be a good rider ? Nope.

[johngenx]

One of the reasons I prefer the 1300 GT bikes is the larger engines need less shifting. Not that a GSX1000 is slow in any gear, but the better bottom end of the big engines is nice.

A 600 sport bike is a wicked fast machine. They're considerably faster than the liter bikes of not that long ago. But yeah, they need a lot of revs and people need to row the gears.

The main thing I don't like about the 600 sports bikes is that they tend to have very compact chassis.


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[dkaz]

250 oughta be enough for everyone. 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

I still like the 600 fours. Waiting to pass while sitting at 8-10k revs then RRRRRRRRRWWWWWWAAAAAAARRRRRR! 

[Triple Bob]

Sometimes you just want to twist your wrist and get past someone, nothing to do with being lazy.  On the highway in 5th you can get between 80 and 140 very quickly indeed without changing gear, it makes getting through traffic very smooth and safe.  Nothing lazy about it, it's just a feature of a larger or more torquey engine.

What about the people complaining that your FZ-09 is too slow to accelerate in 6th gear?

I've never heard anyone say that.  And anyone that expects any vehicle to accelerate super fast in it's longest gear is just a moron.

[Arno]

I want the fastest motorcycle in the world:


The 100% electric:

The Lightning

I think I'm going to get it by next year hopefully.

[dirtyjeffer]

I want the fastest motorcycle in the world:


The 100% electric:

The Lightning

I think I'm going to get it by next year hopefully.

looks uncomfortable, expensive, and like several of the electric bikes out already, unlikely to be that reliable.

[BWII]

Saw one of these on the streets of the Peg yesterday...stopped...waited as he went past...gave him a big childish grin and 2 thumbs up.  Fack that thing looks crazy amazing on the road.  Now I want it...

[dkaz]

Nice looking bike, but I'd rather get a Yamaha VMax that won't be stuck in a shop for unscheduled service half the time.