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Vantage's 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« on: June 23, 2016, 11:34:14 pm »
After hunting for something old to tinker with for a while, we came across this 1988 Mercedes-Benz 560 SEL. She's not perfect, but it's a project and we intend to bring her back to her original glamour.

The good:
-ALL of the electronics work!
-Power reclining rear seats with small foot ottomans
-Power rear sunshade
-Becker Grand Prix stereo with power antenna
-Dual horns (city horn and highway horn)
-Euro yellow fog lights

The bad:
-Has a quarter-sized bubble of rust on one of the rear wheel wells. Will be fixed very soon
-Front fenders need to be replaced (bit of rust bubbling)   (have new fenders ordered)
-Chrome stripe atop the front bumper has rust (ordered this piece too!)
-Got a dime-sized crack in the windshield WHILE DRIVING IT HOME.
-All four wheels need to be re-finished. The plan is to get AMG 17" Monoblocs for the summer and use these factory wheels as winters.

For those who don't know, the 560 SEL was the flagship in its day; the top of the S-Class range, above the 420 SEL, 380 SEL, 350 SDL, 300 SE and 300 SD. They were built from 1987 to 1991, and was considered the prime of the W126 generation. The big V8 sounds awesome and pulls hard... this one runs like a top!

Anyway, it's just nice to have something old and with so much character. Plus, she passed emissions and safety without the slightest hiccup!





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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 11:36:22 pm »
That's just great!  I REALLY like it!!
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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2016, 12:30:06 am »
Nice find. The W126 is a timeless classic.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2016, 01:52:10 am »
Beauty! One of my all time favorite MB designs, they really were among the first "aero" cars, even before the Audi 5000.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 01:56:22 am »
The stereotypical "bank vault" Mercedes. There's a good argument to be made that the W126 was the last truly great Mercedes.

Congratulations!  :thumbup:
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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 02:28:34 am »
Thats just gorgeous and from the time when German engineering actually meant something. Cool car.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 03:58:19 am »
Tidbits...

That car weighs 4000lbs.  How many cars weigh that today?  LOTS!!  LOL!

It was over $100,000 new.  Figure out $100K in 1988 in today's dollars, and it was damned pricey.

The M117 V-8 is super durable EXCEPT for the one weak spot: plastic timing chain guides.  Read this...

https://mercedessource.com/problems/engine/preventing-catastrophic-v8-engine-failure

A good MB indie will know right off about this problem.  It's age related, not mileage.  The plastic guides become brittle.

If you do decide to have the chain and guides replaced (it's a big job, but if needed, then do it...) only buy a new MB chain, not a jobber part.  This thread is great...

http://autotrend.activeboard.com/t52277480/timing-chain-installation-guides-560-420-mercedes-benz-v8-m1/?page=1

Change the trans fluid every 50K and it will last a long time.  Lack of regular fluid changes will lead to premature valve body failure.

The bottom end of the engine will last at least 500K, probably a lot more with regular oil/filters.

Lots of stuff on the car is vacuum operated.  The HVAC system, the door locks, etc, etc.  Vacuum leaks are horrible as they're hard to track down.  As those things are working now, PRAISE BE DA LORD OF CARS as it means you won't be spending the first month of ownership hunting for the leaks.  Another problem with the HVAC system is the Monovalve.  No heat usually means it's done for.

If it clunks in the rear, it's usually the rear sway bar.  Dealers will try to replace the entire assembly for $$$$$.  There's a kit for way less.  Sometimes the SLS is blamed for the clunking - investigate the sway bar first.

Mileage sucks.  MBCA club members I knew with these recorded 18-20L/100km in the city and struggled to get under 14 on the highway.

There's a reason they were so expensive new.  The engineering was incredible and the build quality above anything, and I really mean ANYTHING.  Go look at used 7-series or other flagship cars from then.  None have held up even remotely as well as the big S-Class.  The only comparable car would be the came-along-two-years later LS400 in terms of longevity.

What other 1988 cars aren't rotted away?  Go forward 10 model years and you can find rusting 1998 Mercedes models - most of them are.  But those 80's cars have great bodies and great paint.  Lots of them out there with surprisingly little rust.  When we finally got rid of the 1990 190E 2.6 with 510K on it, it had almost no rust.  My 1998 C230 was rusting when I sold it in 2008.  Hey, MB, what da faq?

What a great find!  Classy car with a lot of cool factor now.  The monoblocks will look great.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 05:22:23 am »
Nice Find!  I really think the W124 and W126 cars of this era were the high water mark for MB. It was right after these were replaced that MB started the great slide into FGC-dom.  ::)
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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 07:43:43 am »
Awesome car, well done!


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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 08:13:14 am »
WOW! Great car. Is this the same model from Ronin?

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 08:24:08 am »
WOW! Great car. Is this the same model from Ronin?

No, the 450SEL 6.9 in Ronin was the previous S-Class, the W116.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 08:34:11 am »
This car is the real OG.  Boss.  I dig it.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 08:51:04 am »
Awesome car!!!  I've been poking around W126's for the past year now... but the 560SEC, just cause I find the coupe so sexy!  Still would like to get one... one day!!  If I can land a new consulting gig that day might be much sooner though   :rofl2:
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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 09:38:10 am »
Awesome car!!!  I've been poking around W126's for the past year now... but the 560SEC, just cause I find the coupe so sexy!  Still would like to get one... one day!!  If I can land a new consulting gig that day might be much sooner though   :rofl2:

A 560 SEC popped up on AutoTrader literally two days after the SEL came home, but it was a lot more beat-up.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 10:20:44 am »
Awesome car!!!  I've been poking around W126's for the past year now... but the 560SEC, just cause I find the coupe so sexy!  Still would like to get one... one day!!  If I can land a new consulting gig that day might be much sooner though   :rofl2:

A 560 SEC popped up on AutoTrader literally two days after the SEL came home, but it was a lot more beat-up.

I was back & forth with this guy a few times  http://www.kijiji.ca/v-classic-cars/ottawa/mercedes-benz-560-sec/1163229334?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true   not sure if it has sold yet, just haven't had the time to go & look at it. Last convo I had with him was that he had an offer for $4,100 as is & if I wanted it for that price he'd give it to me as I was the first one to inquire about it.  Ad is still up, but I think it's probably sold by now.  I even found some nice 16" penta's for it  :o

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 10:30:32 am »
That is fantastic. Looks to be in very good shape.

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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2016, 10:54:39 am »
Old school cool.  I totally dig it.
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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #17 on: June 24, 2016, 11:04:51 am »
She's a beaut.  What a great machine.
I actually prefer the looks of the sedan to the coupe, but I've never been a fan of big coupes.  They should be small, nimble and have a folding roof.   ;D
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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2016, 11:56:13 am »
The car I used to drool over as a teen.
And still do...
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Re: Our 1988 Mercedes 560 SEL
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2016, 12:12:22 pm »
This is awesome, love it!  Congrats!
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