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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #220 on: August 26, 2010, 02:40:11 am »
I agree with you.

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #221 on: August 30, 2010, 07:02:21 pm »
Let's limit speed to 20 KPH! Let's ban.....(fill in the blanks here with your favorite for-the-moment imposition upon others). Hell, lets have the government pass a WHOLE BUNCH of LAWS! So many, that NOBODY can remember them all! McSquinty would have a literal orgasm if we proposed this to him! And you could be his friend!!! Wouldn't THAT be choice!

Whoopie, wouldn't we then be the sweetest greeniest little do goodie forum posters ever belched out of a mistake at birth. And, for being the first (in this thread, NOT this forum, that's for sure) to propose as many shackles on other's lives as possible, Mr. or Ms. can of worms seeker, you get a duplicate rose. Oh, and once we are done with putting all life in a box, listen for the voice crying out, "is anyone actually living any more?".

Oh, and by the way, speed doesn't kill. This has been hashed over a million times. Setting a speed limit not close to the 80th percentile of what all people naturally drive on a given road, has repeatedly proven to be the killer. The oldest topic in motoring.

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #222 on: September 01, 2010, 06:14:33 am »
This forum is very interesting.

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #223 on: October 02, 2010, 11:57:20 pm »
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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #224 on: October 03, 2010, 12:15:16 am »
Let's limit speed to 20 KPH! Let's ban.....(fill in the blanks here with your favorite for-the-moment imposition upon others). Hell, lets have the government pass a WHOLE BUNCH of LAWS! So many, that NOBODY can remember them all! McSquinty would have a literal orgasm if we proposed this to him! And you could be his friend!!! Wouldn't THAT be choice!

Whoopie, wouldn't we then be the sweetest greeniest little do goodie forum posters ever belched out of a mistake at birth. And, for being the first (in this thread, NOT this forum, that's for sure) to propose as many shackles on other's lives as possible, Mr. or Ms. can of worms seeker, you get a duplicate rose. Oh, and once we are done with putting all life in a box, listen for the voice crying out, "is anyone actually living any more?".

Oh, and by the way, speed doesn't kill. This has been hashed over a million times. Setting a speed limit not close to the 80th percentile of what all people naturally drive on a given road, has repeatedly proven to be the killer. The oldest topic in motoring.


Excellent post, Doug!
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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #225 on: January 13, 2011, 01:12:02 am »
Fine we are regarding to free our $2000 repayment here in Ontario the feds pull their $1500 behind just a year so noticeably management in broad do not fancy us to cut the chatter we utilize.

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #226 on: January 13, 2011, 08:37:55 am »
 ERIK .... ::)  looks like newbie Airlecheri....just overpowered you with HIS PHILOSOPHY..... :rofl:................ count me in yer CABINET as Minister of Super Transpo and dragon slayer.... ;)
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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #227 on: March 29, 2011, 12:58:12 pm »
First bail out the automakers with tax payers money...then put an additional tax on their core products so they continue to struggle. Excellent strategy.

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #228 on: July 29, 2011, 03:13:30 pm »
Let's limit speed to 20 KPH! Let's ban.....(fill in the blanks here with your favorite for-the-moment imposition upon others). Hell, lets have the government pass a WHOLE BUNCH of LAWS! So many, that NOBODY can remember them all! McSquinty would have a literal orgasm if we proposed this to him! And you could be his friend!!! Wouldn't THAT be choice!

Whoopie, wouldn't we then be the sweetest greeniest little do goodie forum posters ever belched out of a mistake at birth. And, for being the first (in this thread, NOT this forum, that's for sure) to propose as many shackles on other's lives as possible, Mr. or Ms. can of worms seeker, you get a duplicate rose. Oh, and once we are done with putting all life in a box, listen for the voice crying out, "is anyone actually living any more?".

Oh, and by the way, speed doesn't kill. This has been hashed over a million times. Setting a speed limit not close to the 80th percentile of what all people naturally drive on a given road, has repeatedly proven to be the killer. The oldest topic in motoring.




Wow, what a stupid post.

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #229 on: July 29, 2011, 06:19:35 pm »
Let's limit speed to 20 KPH! Let's ban.....(fill in the blanks here with your favorite for-the-moment imposition upon others). Hell, lets have the government pass a WHOLE BUNCH of LAWS! So many, that NOBODY can remember them all! McSquinty would have a literal orgasm if we proposed this to him! And you could be his friend!!! Wouldn't THAT be choice!

Whoopie, wouldn't we then be the sweetest greeniest little do goodie forum posters ever belched out of a mistake at birth. And, for being the first (in this thread, NOT this forum, that's for sure) to propose as many shackles on other's lives as possible, Mr. or Ms. can of worms seeker, you get a duplicate rose. Oh, and once we are done with putting all life in a box, listen for the voice crying out, "is anyone actually living any more?".

Oh, and by the way, speed doesn't kill. This has been hashed over a million times. Setting a speed limit not close to the 80th percentile of what all people naturally drive on a given road, has repeatedly proven to be the killer. The oldest topic in motoring.




Wow, what a stupid post.

Further proof that common sense is anything but common...

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax
« Reply #230 on: September 04, 2011, 09:28:46 am »
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TORONTO — Federal incentives to encourage a shift from gas-guzzling SUVs to fuel-efficient “green cars” could hurt struggling North American auto makers by keeping some drivers out of the marketplace without significantly boosting sales of gasoline-electric hybrid cars, industry watchers say.

Auto analyst Dennis DesRosiers said Tuesday the government should be concerned with how auto makers might react to its budget plan, which favours hybrid cars with a rebate of up to $2,000 on the purchase but puts a $4,000 tax on SUVs and other vehicles that use high amounts of fuel.

“If I was General Motors, Ford and Chrysler, I'd be real (upset). Right now, these companies are in real sensitive mode in terms of their very survival,” Mr. DesRosiers said.

“Key decisions are being made in their head office boardrooms in terms of plans of what to keep open, what plants to close and where to put their investments. And what does the federal government do? They send a bomb — a missile — into these boardrooms saying we're going to put a $4,000 tax on your most profitable vehicles,” he said.
 
 Mr. DesRosiers suggested consumers will find other ways to acquire an SUV, if they really want to make the purchase, such as buying used — an area that isn't covered by the incentive plan — or travelling stateside to make a purchase.

The taxes “don't deter consumers from buying these kinds of vehicles, mainly because you can drive a large SUV through the loopholes in them.”

Ontario Premier Dalton McGuinty applauded the hybrid incentive, saying manufacturers have to help protect the environment by curbing greenhouse gas emissions, despite any short-term effect on the province's huge manufacturing operations.

Ontario and some other provinces already have existing incentive programs that double rebates when a hybrid vehicle is bought.

Mr. McGuinty said he wants to work with the Canadian auto industry — heavily concentrated in Ontario — so it is producing products and models that are more environmentally friendly.

Toyota Motor Corp., which has been a long-time supporter of hybrid vehicles but doesn't plan to make any in Canada, also lauded the incentives plan.

“Toyota has long believed that the global automotive industry must take real measures to make things better for the planet,” Toyota Canada managing director Stephen Beatty said in a release.

“This is why we have invested so heavily in fuel-efficient engines, smaller vehicles, emission-fighting systems and advanced technology such as our industry leading gasoline-electric hybrids.”

Toyota plans to open a new plant in Woodstock, Ont., next year to make the RAV-4 mini sports utility vehicle.

Chris Johnsen, Canadian automotive leader at Deloitte & Touche consultants, said auto makers were unlikely to shift hybrid manufacturing to Canada in response to the new incentives. He added that he's skeptical of how much impact the entire program will have on consumer spending.

“The incentive, while it certainly causes people to take notice, won't shift consumer buying,” he said.

“A consumer up in northern Ontario, for example, would have very little benefit buying a hybrid. Where they make a huge impact is in big-city driving, stop-and-go in places like Vancouver or Montreal.”

Mr. DesRosiers added that even if the tax incentives did affect sales, the Canadian SUV market is too small to make a lasting impression on climate change.

“I respect that people who buy one of those big gas-guzzlers potentially should be a target, but last year in Canada there were 15,000 (SUVs sold) and that's it.”

He said a major effect would be felt if Canadians started to sneak through the taxation loopholes, sending auto sales downward.


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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #231 on: September 04, 2011, 09:53:03 am »
KMAXX, my Cobra is running a 750 cfm four-barrel Holley.  I could use some fuel consumption help.  Got any of those "100 mpg carburetors" sitting around in your inventory too...?  :rofl: :rofl:

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #232 on: January 01, 2013, 09:09:16 pm »
Good thing i live in Australia - hehe  :rofl:

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #233 on: February 04, 2013, 03:14:51 pm »
 ::) naw the sediment drifts down to the bottom mate.....ya need the devices pronto ;) ..............why yhe hell ya need spark plugs in OZ with those dinkum Temps... :think: :stick: >:D ...ya could fry an egg on a fried egg on a hobo's arse...................

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #234 on: July 07, 2014, 07:47:02 pm »
First bail out the automakers with tax payers money...then put an additional tax on their core products so they continue to struggle. Excellent strategy.

Rarely does an additional cost to a manufacturer end up being absorbed by said manufacturer.

Costs (taxes, fees, licenses, etc) are born by the end purchaser in most cases, and the remainder of additional costs born by society either for the greater good or because the original cost did not include externalities (such as CO2 for climate change).

Did I miss something earlier in this thread?

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Re: Harper budget hurts the big three at a particular sensitive time
« Reply #235 on: July 07, 2014, 07:58:03 pm »
As far as pollution, from consumer vehicles, the numbers simply do not add up to make it a serious issue. Yes, I lived in LA, yes I have inhaled smog every morning and yes I know you can get a headache from it. On the global scale however, the amount of car emissions in the atmosphere is so insignificant that it ain't going to make a difference. It's just an excuse to rub consumers blind through taxes.

These facts disagree with you:
http://auto.howstuffworks.com/air-pollution-from-cars.htm

"rub consumers blind"?!?  LOL 

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #236 on: July 07, 2014, 08:01:10 pm »
Ferrari would go out of business and then there would be no more F1.

Ohhh noozzzz!!  The world is coming to an end... Oh no, it's not:

http://www.macleans.ca/economy/business/ferrari-hybrid-marks-the-beginning-of-the-end-for-gas-powered-automobiles/

Ohh noozzzz, no more racing!!! Oh, right, there is this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIA_Formula_E_Championship

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #237 on: July 07, 2014, 08:13:25 pm »

We live in a country where we can still play with matches and run with scissors if we want to.

Yeah, but we still send people to jail for stabbings and arson.
For everything there is a limit.

At this point, we are just trying to argue the limit.  For me, I recently bought a car with an artificial top speed limit of 140km/h, even though my other vehicle has a top speed >>200km/h.

I am totally fine with the top speed of my new Smart ED as I use it to commute on city streets, and in neighbourhoods where going too fast can cause injuries if a kid darts out into the street chasing a ball in front of you.

Frankly, most cars are way faster than is necessary to commute on city streets. 

Eventually technology will remove some of the dangers to pedestrians and cyclists trying to share the same streets as cars/trucks. 
Ref : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Collision_avoidance_system

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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #238 on: August 24, 2022, 03:21:04 pm »
Seems gas prices are finally going down??


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Re: Official: Gas Guzzler Tax Discussion
« Reply #239 on: August 24, 2022, 04:09:37 pm »
Enjoy it while it lasts. There is an overall shortage of petroleum in the world.