Topic: 2024 INEOS Grenadier

[tortoise]

Is it wrong that I think the best part of the interior is the rotary dials for the HVAC system?  Why any other method needed to be developed is beyond me.

[PJungnitsch]

Yeah, they say accidents are going up, and blame social media, people texting, etc.

I wonder if it's because on screen controls with no tactile feedback draw peoples attention away from the road for too long

[JohnnyMac]

Yeah, they say accidents are going up, and blame social media, people texting, etc.

I wonder if it's because on screen controls with no tactile feedback draw peoples attention away from the road for too long

Here I just thought it was because of wide spread stupidity and incompetence. 

[ktm525]

Is it wrong that I think the best part of the interior is the rotary dials for the HVAC system?  Why any other method needed to be developed is beyond me.

Screens are cheap that is why.

[rrocket]

Yeah, they say accidents are going up, and blame social media, people texting, etc.

I wonder if it's because on screen controls with no tactile feedback draw peoples attention away from the road for too long

I went through and compiled FARS data (Fatal Accident Reporting System) for 2 articles I wrote.

One was for Street Racing and one for Cell Phone use.

In both cases, being distracted by controls (radio, HVAC, other, etc) caused more fatalities than either.

[PJungnitsch]

Makes sense. The US Navy summed it up best:

‘just because you can doesn’t mean you should’

https://www.theverge.com/2019/8/11/20800111/us-navy-uss-john-s-mccain-crash-ntsb-report-touchscreen-mechanical-controls

[rrocket]

Makes sense. The US Navy summed it up best:

I'm sure cell phone fatalities are higher now due to even more universal use...but still won't be close to the fatalities caused by other "in the car" distractions.

Here's the FARS data from 1998-2005 I compiled

Total fatalities: 304,236

Street Racing: 353 (.12 percent)
Cell phone: 327 (.11 percent)
Driving BELOW speed limit 429 (.14 percent)
Police vehicle-caused fatal accidents 1,357 (.44 percent)
Distraction inside vehicle (controls or talking to passenger) 38,914 (12.79 percent)

Drunk driving: nearly 144,000!

This is the best part! I spoke to the Federal gov't department, MP, MPP, Ministry of Transportation and the OPP. When they saw the data, they all thought that the Street Racing numbers would be "much higher". When I asked them where THEY get data to decide policy (or why they thought the numbers would be higher), they just sort of shrugged their shoulders; they didn't know. Turns out Canada does NOT have a FARS system. So Canada had no real data that they use to make driving policy. It's typically made up BS.

[Jaeger]

That thing is cool AF.