Topic: What "build and price" sites have you been on lately

[tortoise]

Spent some time pricing out a new Tiguan with AWD.  Price is less shocking than I thought.  Compares nicely with the CrossTrek in terms of price and seems to be a better deal in terms of features. 

Long term reliability is another issue altogether though.  Perhaps better as a lease?  Dunno.

Might be.  Or wait a year for the bugs to be worked out.  I think VW nailed the size and packaging of the Tiguan.  Sure it needs more power but it's competitive with what it has.

[ltruong]

Spent some time pricing out a new Tiguan with AWD.  Price is less shocking than I thought.  Compares nicely with the CrossTrek in terms of price and seems to be a better deal in terms of features. 

Long term reliability is another issue altogether though.  Perhaps better as a lease?  Dunno.

The new tiguan would be more inline with the forester for size wise but hey you cross shop what you want!!  long term reliability I would quote both  them the same.  Maybe VW better for powertrain

Digital cockpit is nice!

[quadzilla]

Noticed VW released the Touareg TDI and Audi Q5 TDI left overs. Would love to have either one of those. Over 400 pounds of torque. One or should I say two of the SUVs that I'd would like to have.

[EV-Light]

Spent some time pricing out a new Tiguan with AWD.  Price is less shocking than I thought.  Compares nicely with the CrossTrek in terms of price and seems to be a better deal in terms of features. 

Long term reliability is another issue altogether though.  Perhaps better as a lease?  Dunno.

What are the builds?! The CrossTrek starts at $23k! Unless ur comparing a Limited to a Tiguan Trendline (base model, lacking many features....)


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[Dante]

I was checking out the Tiguan today too (again).

Trendline looks like good value to me for an utility vehicle (luxury/fancy features are not a must have) - it comes with most of the feature Is want when Convenience Package is added for about $32,800.

I assume that I would be able to get at least $2,800 off which would bring the price down to $30K. Sure, it's no frills - no auto climate control, no HID (or LED), no push button, etc. but for an utilitarian vehicle it's fine.  It has CarPlay/Android Auto, leather steering wheel, auto lights and wipers, sliding rear seats, 40-20-40 split, 17" alloy, fog-lights (no blanks), cloth sets and interesting looking ones so all the basis are covered. The only thing I dislike in this trim, aside of the cheap rear door panels, it's the lack of rear armrest - I really wish it had one.

Still in the running for a potential replacement for the Outlander when the time comes - I kind of made peace with the fact that in the mainstream compact SUV, 4 cylinders and 180-190 hp is the norm. Otherwise, I would have to bite the bullet and put up with $50K premium SUVs... Tough call.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I was checking out the Tiguan today too (again).

Trendline looks like good value to me for an utility vehicle (luxury/fancy features are not a must have) - it comes with most of the feature Is want when Convenience Package is added for about $32,800.

I assume that I would be able to get at least $2,800 off which would bring the price down to $30K. Sure, it's no frills - no auto climate control, no HID (or LED), no push button, etc. but for an utilitarian vehicle it's fine.  It has CarPlay/Android Auto, leather steering wheel, auto lights and wipers, sliding rear seats, 40-20-40 split, 17" alloy, fog-lights (no blanks), cloth sets and interesting looking ones so all the basis are covered. The only thing I dislike in this trim, aside of the cheap rear door panels, it's the lack of rear armrest - I really wish it had one.

Still in the running for a potential replacement for the Outlander when the time comes - I kind of made peace with the fact that in the mainstream compact SUV, 4 cylinders and 180-190 hp is the norm. Otherwise, I would have to bite the bullet and put up with $50K premium SUVs... Tough call.

Why not look at a Used CUV?

[JohnnyMac]

I was checking out the Tiguan today too (again).

Trendline looks like good value to me for an utility vehicle (luxury/fancy features are not a must have) - it comes with most of the feature Is want when Convenience Package is added for about $32,800.

I assume that I would be able to get at least $2,800 off which would bring the price down to $30K. Sure, it's no frills - no auto climate control, no HID (or LED), no push button, etc. but for an utilitarian vehicle it's fine.  It has CarPlay/Android Auto, leather steering wheel, auto lights and wipers, sliding rear seats, 40-20-40 split, 17" alloy, fog-lights (no blanks), cloth sets and interesting looking ones so all the basis are covered. The only thing I dislike in this trim, aside of the cheap rear door panels, it's the lack of rear armrest - I really wish it had one.

Still in the running for a potential replacement for the Outlander when the time comes - I kind of made peace with the fact that in the mainstream compact SUV, 4 cylinders and 180-190 hp is the norm. Otherwise, I would have to bite the bullet and put up with $50K premium SUVs... Tough call.

Why not look at a Used CUV?

Or just get the Kia Sorento with the V6.

[G.Bombay]

I was checking out the Tiguan today too (again).

Trendline looks like good value to me for an utility vehicle (luxury/fancy features are not a must have) - it comes with most of the feature Is want when Convenience Package is added for about $32,800.

I assume that I would be able to get at least $2,800 off which would bring the price down to $30K. Sure, it's no frills - no auto climate control, no HID (or LED), no push button, etc. but for an utilitarian vehicle it's fine.  It has CarPlay/Android Auto, leather steering wheel, auto lights and wipers, sliding rear seats, 40-20-40 split, 17" alloy, fog-lights (no blanks), cloth sets and interesting looking ones so all the basis are covered. The only thing I dislike in this trim, aside of the cheap rear door panels, it's the lack of rear armrest - I really wish it had one.

Still in the running for a potential replacement for the Outlander when the time comes - I kind of made peace with the fact that in the mainstream compact SUV, 4 cylinders and 180-190 hp is the norm. Otherwise, I would have to bite the bullet and put up with $50K premium SUVs... Tough call.

Why not look at a Used CUV?

Or just get the Kia Sorento with the V6.

This. The EX-V6, mid $30's. All day long before a Tiguan.

[mlin32]

Playing with the Peugeot 308 configurator...........but no way can I afford a new one

There's a 208 GTi with the same 1,6 litre petrol, would make a fun pocket rocket but the long-distance comfort might be lacking and the lack of xenons or LED headlamps is a no-go for me.

There are plenty of 308s with the Puretech 1,2 litre 130THP petrol engine but I kind of want power in a country where accelerating from 130-170 is a big deal.

[2JDM]

I was checking out the Tiguan today too (again).

Trendline looks like good value to me for an utility vehicle (luxury/fancy features are not a must have) - it comes with most of the feature Is want when Convenience Package is added for about $32,800.

I assume that I would be able to get at least $2,800 off which would bring the price down to $30K. Sure, it's no frills - no auto climate control, no HID (or LED), no push button, etc. but for an utilitarian vehicle it's fine.  It has CarPlay/Android Auto, leather steering wheel, auto lights and wipers, sliding rear seats, 40-20-40 split, 17" alloy, fog-lights (no blanks), cloth sets and interesting looking ones so all the basis are covered. The only thing I dislike in this trim, aside of the cheap rear door panels, it's the lack of rear armrest - I really wish it had one.

Still in the running for a potential replacement for the Outlander when the time comes - I kind of made peace with the fact that in the mainstream compact SUV, 4 cylinders and 180-190 hp is the norm. Otherwise, I would have to bite the bullet and put up with $50K premium SUVs... Tough call.

Why not look at a Used CUV?

Or just get the Kia Sorento with the V6.

You can also get a slightly used Sorento V6 for pennies. They depreciate quite quickly.

[Ex-airbalancer]

I was checking out the Tiguan today too (again).

Trendline looks like good value to me for an utility vehicle (luxury/fancy features are not a must have) - it comes with most of the feature Is want when Convenience Package is added for about $32,800.

I assume that I would be able to get at least $2,800 off which would bring the price down to $30K. Sure, it's no frills - no auto climate control, no HID (or LED), no push button, etc. but for an utilitarian vehicle it's fine.  It has CarPlay/Android Auto, leather steering wheel, auto lights and wipers, sliding rear seats, 40-20-40 split, 17" alloy, fog-lights (no blanks), cloth sets and interesting looking ones so all the basis are covered. The only thing I dislike in this trim, aside of the cheap rear door panels, it's the lack of rear armrest - I really wish it had one.

Still in the running for a potential replacement for the Outlander when the time comes - I kind of made peace with the fact that in the mainstream compact SUV, 4 cylinders and 180-190 hp is the norm. Otherwise, I would have to bite the bullet and put up with $50K premium SUVs... Tough call.

Why not look at a Used CUV?

Or just get the Kia Sorento with the V6.

You can also get a slightly used Sorento V6 for pennies. They depreciate quite quickly.

I look at Sorento and passed on it 

[BWII]

Building M2's and RS3's.  And then realizing I need to help three kids get to college....

They can get a job, and pay most of their own way.  It's def my mantra... My wife on the other hand... She's always dropping money into the kids account.  He doesn't need the help.  The youngest though...different story there.  Good thing he got a big scholarship too. 

[Dante]

Having spent about an hour in the showroom checking out the Tiguan, waiting for my GTI to have the wheels swapped, I came to the conclusion that it may still be a contender in the future. I spent most of the time checking out the rear passenger and cargo area since they finally had one on the floor without the 3rd row option.

Few key points:

Pros
- Cargo space is pretty versatile and spacious enough for my needs/wants - deep and wide cargo floor, enough leg room in the back even in the most forward position and with the front seats setup for me, sliding/reclining rear seats, 40/20/40 split - all good features which makes it very versatile
- Cargo floor height is adjustable by about 1.5-2 inch, but I don't find it material. The good thing could be that with the floor at the highest position, there might be enough space underneath to fit a full spare (something I would most likely consider).
- Cargo walls are carpeted instead of hard plastic trim and the suspension does not intrude much in the usable cargo. Generous space to store washer fluid jars on both sides.
- There is in fact a rear armrest on the Trendline despite some pictures on the vw.ca which do not show it.
- 12V+USB for the rear passengers and console vents (instead of floor only)

Cons
- Cargo floor is almost flush with the bumper (lose items could fall when you open the hatch)
- Rear view camera is no longer hidden behind the VW badge (expect to get dirty in winter)
- Cargo hooks look unfinished and cheap (just a fixed painted steel loop)
- Rear door panel inserts are made of hard plastic instead of fabric like the front (I ranted about this before and it's still one big issue in my eyes; I hope VW will eventually fix it in a future MY)

Checking the website again, the Trendline 4Motion + Convenience  for $32,825 MSRP would most likely be my choice.

It comes with all my MUST-HAVE features and more, except for HID and to a lesser extent, the auto climate control and sliding/height adjustable front armrest found in the Golf (not available on Tiguan). More importantly for me, this is the only trim that comes with (nice) cloth seats and leather steering wheel/gear sifter combination which is my preference.

[DriverJeff]

I was just over on the Jeep site and the 3 year lease payments look extremely low on the 2018 JKs.  An unlimited Rubicon looks to be just under $600 a month tax included, while not cheap seems very low for a close to $60,000 vehicle after tax.  Anyone have any thoughts on this, I know the Wrangler has good residuals but maybe with the JL just around the corner they need to move the JKs quickly?

I checked that out a couple months back and found a JK Rubicon to be temptingly low to lease too. 

[BWII]

Just on Ford...you can't get an Edge with the 3..5 V6 anymore...huh...either of the two turbos, 4 cyl or 2.7 V6. 

[quadzilla]

Genesis G70

Just have a hard time wrapping my head around a sedan.

[rrocket]

Genesis G70

Just have a hard time wrapping my head around a sedan.

Come on...you were all baller when you drove my LS!

[Railton]

Ford.  Shelby GT 350.

 
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Ford.  Shelby GT 350.

 

Just saw a black one now when out for a drive. Black with silver stripes. Looked awesome.

Do it!!
Railton

[quadzilla]

Genesis G70

Just have a hard time wrapping my head around a sedan.

Come on...you were all baller when you drove my LS!

Yep. Loved driving your car and wish I had one for the many trips I do to London. But still need to carry bikes and camping gear plus sleep in the back at the odd trailhead.

Would love to have two cars but that isn't happening anytime soon.

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[Dante]

BMW.ca configuring a 2018 BMW M2 -one of the cars in my "if I win the lottery" list.

This was after reading an article and looking at some pictures of accessories and upgrades on the already upgraded M2 Competition version. Save for the big rear wing, I would check all the boxes for those carbon-fiber accents/parts as well as the decals.

Manual, RWD, 400HP I6 turbo in a relatively small package... what's not to like other than the price, which would probably be well over $100K when all it's said and done. One can dream though... it's free!