Topic: How to Reduce Your Automotive Footprint

[Noto]

whatever it is called, it is real, it is happening right now, and it is going to get really dire really quick

Dire Climate Change.  It's like regular climate change, only more dire!

Meh, whatever it is, it's not our problem - our kids are though. 

(note the sarcasm)

[Fobroader]

[mlin32]

The increasingly unstable and unpredicable weather worldwide is one of many signs of climate change.

Where I live in Germany and most of western Europe is gonna get much colder  . Already we had an exceptionally cold March !

[ChaosphereIX]

the wild weather is screwing up the animals, so much so that their natural balance is getting more and more out of sync. If it gets too out of sync, the whole house of cards comes falling down.

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-223847-4-.htm

[dkaz]

the wild weather is screwing up the animals, so much so that their natural balance is getting more and more out of sync. If it gets too out of sync, the whole house of cards comes falling down.

https://www.castanet.net/edition/news-story-223847-4-.htm

You linked a Kelowna news site!

[dirtyjeffer]

whatever it is called, it is real, it is happening right now, and it is going to get really dire really quick

effects are being seen already: sea turtles are going to be extinct soon, the oceans are going to die off due to acidification and temperature variations, fisheries are being fished to nothing, massive extreme weather shifts due to changing ocean temperatures, the oceans are mostly plastic now, deserts are growing at an exponential rate, crustaceans cant form proper hard shells, etc. etc. Nature doesn't like changes, and when it does, things die on a massive scale.

I am a tree hugger, but even I know that reducing your automotive footprint is not really going to do anything on its own. Yes, it is nice if you can make some changes, but honestly, civilian transportation in cars is a tiny piece of a big puzzle.

don't worry, nature has a way of balancing things out...in a few decades, when the polar ice caps melt, bacteria that has been dormant in ice and permafrost for hundreds of thousands of years will be re-released into our environment, and humans will be unable to manage it...it will cause a mass extinction like event for mankind (or personkind if you prefer) and wipe out 3/4 of human population, bringing our numbers more in-line with how the planet can manage our existence.

[TheHire]

Lifetime is 9.6, but I can get it down to 8.0 (my average from Toronto-Detroit-Toronto last month). That's using calculations, though the indicated in the car's computer isn't far off.

You're in Detroit and you don't hit me up?  I know I'm not likeable, but geez....

Wait, what? I thought you were in like Kitchener... where are you located?

[ktm525]

whatever it is called, it is real, it is happening right now, and it is going to get really dire really quick

effects are being seen already: sea turtles are going to be extinct soon, the oceans are going to die off due to acidification and temperature variations, fisheries are being fished to nothing, massive extreme weather shifts due to changing ocean temperatures, the oceans are mostly plastic now, deserts are growing at an exponential rate, crustaceans cant form proper hard shells, etc. etc. Nature doesn't like changes, and when it does, things die on a massive scale.

I am a tree hugger, but even I know that reducing your automotive footprint is not really going to do anything on its own. Yes, it is nice if you can make some changes, but honestly, civilian transportation in cars is a tiny piece of a big puzzle.

The oceans are mostly plastic? There is plastic in the ocean but mostly? Like 51%?  Is this by volume or weight?    Things have been dying off on massive scales long before humans showed up. I think you underestimate Mother Earth. She will be doing just fine long after the humans are gone. What does over fishing have to do with climate and emissions?  Perhaps humans are just on a boom bust cycle like rabbits and lemmings. We kill all our food sources most of us die and then things recover and around we go again. How do you twist the key on your Alfa every morning? Every time you do a baby penguin (or turtle dies).

[ChaosphereIX]

whatever it is called, it is real, it is happening right now, and it is going to get really dire really quick

effects are being seen already: sea turtles are going to be extinct soon, the oceans are going to die off due to acidification and temperature variations, fisheries are being fished to nothing, massive extreme weather shifts due to changing ocean temperatures, the oceans are mostly plastic now, deserts are growing at an exponential rate, crustaceans cant form proper hard shells, etc. etc. Nature doesn't like changes, and when it does, things die on a massive scale.

I am a tree hugger, but even I know that reducing your automotive footprint is not really going to do anything on its own. Yes, it is nice if you can make some changes, but honestly, civilian transportation in cars is a tiny piece of a big puzzle.

The oceans are mostly plastic? There is plastic in the ocean but mostly? Like 51%?  Is this by volume or weight?    Things have been dying off on massive scales long before humans showed up. I think you underestimate Mother Earth. She will be doing just fine long after the humans are gone. What does over fishing have to do with climate and emissions?  Perhaps humans are just on a boom bust cycle like rabbits and lemmings. We kill all our food sources most of us die and then things recover and around we go again. How do you twist the key on your Alfa every morning? Every time you do a baby penguin (or turtle dies).

didnt read what I wrote did you? I said automotive footprint is a small piece of a huge puzzle, and the less than 5K I have put on the Alfa in 5 years is not a factor.

The whole goal of reducing your automotive footprint is to reduce the impact on the environment, so yes those other factors are important.

[rrocket]

Lifetime is 9.6, but I can get it down to 8.0 (my average from Toronto-Detroit-Toronto last month). That's using calculations, though the indicated in the car's computer isn't far off.

You're in Detroit and you don't hit me up?  I know I'm not likeable, but geez....

Wait, what? I thought you were in like Kitchener... where are you located?

Near Windsor!

[dkaz]

I'm catching Quadzilla's drift that I should try to ride my bicycle to work every so often. Especially in Kelowna. Edmonton doesn't seem to have as many good cycling routes.

[Brig]

[ArticSteve]

don't worry, nature has a way of balancing things out...in a few decades, when the polar ice caps melt, bacteria that has been dormant in ice and permafrost for hundreds of thousands of years will be re-released into our environment, and humans will be unable to manage it...it will cause a mass extinction like event for mankind (or personkind if you prefer) and wipe out 3/4 of human population, bringing our numbers more in-line with how the planet can manage our existence.

So you are saying better start spending like there is no tomorrow.   Expecting a surge in the show and shine. 

[EV-Light]

don't worry, nature has a way of balancing things out...in a few decades, when the polar ice caps melt, bacteria that has been dormant in ice and permafrost for hundreds of thousands of years will be re-released into our environment, and humans will be unable to manage it...it will cause a mass extinction like event for mankind (or personkind if you prefer) and wipe out 3/4 of human population, bringing our numbers more in-line with how the planet can manage our existence.

So you are saying better start spending like there is no tomorrow.   Expecting a surge in the show and shine. 

I helped it a little bit...my RS city driving average - 17.3L/100km lol blame the popping....


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[quadzilla]

I'm catching Quadzilla's drift that I should try to ride my bicycle to work every so often. Especially in Kelowna. Edmonton doesn't seem to have as many good cycling routes.

Smart man. Let me know how it goes.

[Brig]