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Offline OliverD

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Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« on: December 12, 2017, 02:41:24 pm »


Hard to believe that my three year lease ends today. In about an hour I'm dropping the GTI off at the dealership. If I can make it there on summer performance tires in the snow and freezing rain. :P

I never regretted this car. I still think that the GTI gives you the best combination of performance, handling, comfort, and practicality for the price. I won't argue that some of its competitors are perhaps more raw and fun to drive but the GTI offers the total package.

There's so much talk of FGCs on this forum and I'm happy to say that the GTI was extremely reliable. I had one minor issue early on with faulty wiring for the oil temperature sensor that was promptly fixed under warranty. I also had a rattle in the sunroof taken care of once, and it has started rattling again in the last few months. Other than that I only experienced one minor glitch where the cruise control didn't work and the infotainment was a bit wonky until I turned the car off for a few minutes and back on, but I was never able to reproduce that. My only expenses have been the maintenance services performed at 15k intervals and one wheel alignment. I think in total I spent around $600 in maintenance (including the alignment). I also had to buy new tires this spring.

Combine that with an average fuel consumption of 7.9 L/100 km and the cost of ownership was very, very reasonable.

Living with the car I did have a few complaints. The gearing is a bit long, and even from a roll starting in second gear is not as effortless as it is in most cars. Shorter gearing would be an improvement. The infotainment screen is a bit small and the system is subpar but that was quickly fixed with the 2016 model (and the 2018 model is further improved).

I will also admit that the GTI is a touch boring. It's just so refined. I can appreciate that it's hard to strike a balance between making a quiet, comfortable car that at the same time is fun to drive and has a lot of personality.

The GTI has a lot of nice features that I grew to appreciate. The auto high beams worked really well, and I miss that in my new car. The headlights in general were awesome, with static and dynamic cornering lights and LED DRLs. The interior was very nice and now that I'm without them I've really come to appreciate features like lined storage compartments that prevent your stuff from rattling.

My new Clubman JCW highlights the strengths and weaknesses of the GTI. The MINI has a ton more personality, but it also doesn't seem quite as refined as the VW and it's missing some seemingly minor but much appreciated details that the GTI has. And while they're not direct competitors (since the JCW is a lot more expensive and has AWD), they're almost exactly the same size and have very similar performance. The GTI wins out in cost of ownership with better fuel economy and lower insurance rates but the JCW is more fun to drive.

I could never fault someone for choosing a GTI though. It's an objectively fantastic car. I'm not sure I'm going to miss it since I like to have variety but driving it to work this morning I definitely appreciated how good it was.

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #1 on: December 12, 2017, 02:50:21 pm »
Great summary, thanks for sharing!! GTI is always high on my list of go-to cars when someone asks for recommendations, to me it's still the original hot hatch... just a little more civilized now. When the GF was shopping the GTI was up on the list as well, just was a little outta reach for her price target, hence the 323i she bought. I'd like to have one of these in my stable one day, but that might be quite a few years down the road, like maybe when one of my boys gets their 1st car... I'd support a used GTI purchase by one of them  ;D
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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #2 on: December 12, 2017, 02:51:57 pm »
Thanks for the summary.

I feel the same way about my GSW. It's so refined, so comfortable and even handles pretty well.  But, it's not super fun. The turn-in is a bit lazy (granted I'm on 15" wheels) and it's not a car that begs you to give it a flogging.  The Mazda5 by comparison had sharper turn in and seemed more playful. 

But, for a car to crush kms in, the Golf is impressive for what is basically a compact car.   

And yeah, the little touches like everything being backlit, padded cubbies, etc  are easy to get used to.
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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #3 on: December 12, 2017, 03:01:20 pm »
I feel the same way about my GSW. It's so refined, so comfortable and even handles pretty well.  But, it's not super fun. The turn-in is a bit lazy (granted I'm on 15" wheels) and it's not a car that begs you to give it a flogging.  The Mazda5 by comparison had sharper turn in and seemed more playful.

I rented a 5 once and was surprised by just how well it handled.

I should mention that before I got the GTI I was seriously considering a MkVI Golf Wolfsburg Edition TDI wagon. I'm really, really glad I didn't pull the trigger on it. It was a fantastic deal – a hair over $30k, 0.9% financing for 84 months. It would have been a safe, practical choice with very low ownership costs (especially with the TDI buy back!). But it was missing a lot of features my GTI had, not to mention the performance and handling. When I need the practicality I can borrow my dad's since he ended up buying that exact car (in tornado red, even).

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #4 on: December 12, 2017, 03:05:09 pm »
The Mk7 is a pretty big leap forward vs. the Mk6. 

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #5 on: December 12, 2017, 03:11:34 pm »
The Mk7 is a pretty big leap forward vs. the Mk6.

Agreed.

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #6 on: December 12, 2017, 03:13:55 pm »
Nice summary, and I echo many of your sentiments. The Golf is a car you'd recommend to everyone, even if it is a touch boring. My friend who has his modded-out Mk5 has been testing the used car market for a Mk6 and I told him to just get a Mk7 because it's so much sharper (and the Mk6 isn't much better than his current Mk5).

Agree also with the tall-ish gearing, but this seems to be a common occurrence on modern 6-speed German cars (auto or manual).
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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #7 on: December 12, 2017, 03:16:28 pm »
Agree also with the tall-ish gearing, but this seems to be a common occurrence on modern 6-speed German cars (auto or manual).

I'm surprised how much shorter the gearing is in my JCW. Makes it feel a lot quicker even if it isn't. I'd say my wife's base Cooper sits somewhere between the GTI and the JCW.

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #8 on: December 12, 2017, 03:23:46 pm »
Totally second Oliver's thoughts on the GTI. I still have 2.5 years on my lease but I would have a hard time to pick a better hatch this time. It's simply the best you can get this side of the pond at least and indeed it's such a well rounded vehicle and very nicely done.

Mine, with just over 25K on the odo over 1.5 years, has been totally trouble free as well. I too had the intermittent rattle in the sunroof which was addressed by a recall and a TSB during the last service, but other than that nothing to complain about so far. No electronic glitches or of a different nature so far but I think the entertainment system is different/newer on the MY16+.


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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #9 on: December 12, 2017, 04:21:47 pm »
Nice summary Oliver.  It's always good to hear of positive ownership experiences.  :thumbup:

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #10 on: December 12, 2017, 04:33:44 pm »
Nice write up
What would have been the buy out price ?

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #11 on: December 12, 2017, 07:32:29 pm »
Nice write up
What would have been the buy out price ?

It was $19,800 + dealer admin fee (I believe $499).

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2017, 07:56:05 pm »
I really like the GTI.  Hell, I liked it way back when it had 90 hp.  ;D

Having said that, I'd never, ever recommend someone buy a high mileage VW GTI (or any newer VW)......unless I really didn't like that person.  :-*

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #13 on: December 12, 2017, 08:04:45 pm »
To be fair, recent Golfs have a far better reputation than they used to.

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #14 on: December 12, 2017, 08:12:37 pm »
Nice write up
What would have been the buy out price ?

It was $19,800 + dealer admin fee (I believe $499).
That would have been a nice pick up for someone, if you are into GTI

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #15 on: December 12, 2017, 08:57:02 pm »
Nice write up
What would have been the buy out price ?

It was $19,800 + dealer admin fee (I believe $499).
That would have been a nice pick up for someone, if you are into GTI

Yep. I had it listed on Kijiji for $22.5k, had one person interested but no one bit.

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #16 on: December 12, 2017, 09:49:08 pm »
Some good snow there!

Weren't you looking at 15% HST if you bought out the lease residual? 

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #17 on: December 12, 2017, 10:20:57 pm »
Some good snow there!

Weren't you looking at 15% HST if you bought out the lease residual?

Correct.

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #18 on: December 13, 2017, 09:17:09 am »
Geez that thing had a higher residual than my truck!! (mind you my lease was 4 yrs - but still...was the GTI $48 new?)

I guess that's a  :rofl: on me, eh?  :P

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Re: Three years and 80k with a 2015 GTI
« Reply #19 on: December 13, 2017, 10:21:25 am »
Geez that thing had a higher residual than my truck!! (mind you my lease was 4 yrs - but still...was the GTI $48 new?)

I guess that's a  :rofl: on me, eh?  :P

About $36k new.