Topic: Tire Specs for thread wear

[WP v3.32]

Where would i find Thread dept specification for tires,  Cross climate 2

I want  to know what is the acceptable depth for winter.  I can't find the info on the website

[Fobroader]

Well, the easiest thing to find out is where they start at new, usually measures in 32'nds. Looks like the Crossclimate is about 10/32s. Usually when tires get to about 3-4/32s they are done.

[WP v3.32]

yeah I though there was a specific number for winter. 

this is what I can find. 3/32 for winter seams crazy

 

(4) Based on third-party snow traction tests using ASTM Test Method F1805-12, using tires buffed to 3/32” remaining tread depth. When compared to Standard Reference Test Tire (SRTT) in size 235/55R18, the MICHELIN® CrossClimate®2 tire scored 93 compared to the Continental® CrossContact™ LX25 tire, which scored 63, and the Goodyear® Assurance® WeatherReady® tire which scored 65; and when compared to SRTT in size 215/55R17, the MICHELIN® CrossClimate®2 tire scored 90 compared to the Bridgestone® Turanza™ QuietTrack™, which scored 62, and the Continental® PureContact™ LS, which scored 59. Actual on-road results may vary.


Edit:  I have the tool at home.  I thought there was norms like:   do not use tires in winter under  X/32


I'm thinking switching back to 2 sets, keeping the cross climate for summer one more season  and get some winters on the wife's car only.

[Fobroader]

I wouldn't be driving a tire with that much tread through Arizona in August, let alone through winter conditions. 3/32 is about a tenth of an inch, or about 2.5mm. No thank you.

[PJungnitsch]

Yeah, that's basically bald. How many klicks? I almost never seem to wear out a winter tire, usually replace them at a certain age

[WP v3.32]

Yeah, that's basically bald. How many klicks? I almost never seem to wear out a winter tire, usually replace them at a certain age

They had 3 winter seasons.   I just though there was a specific amount for winter,  3/32 is just nuts, I though it would have been way more.     I'll measure tonight.

[Fobroader]

Go to any car parts store, they should have a tread depth gauge. A couple of bucks and you won't have any doubts.

[WP v3.32]

Go to any car parts store, they should have a tread depth gauge. A couple of bucks and you won't have any doubts.

I have one.

[tpl]

I used to change winter tires after  3 SW ONT winters.  Now I do so few km a year maybe the Cross Climate 2 will last 4-5 years...but I never keep cars that long anyway.

[ArticSteve]

Currently on the MDX I run Michelin X-Ice in the non winter months, that only can be described as a great all season after 20k km.  These are mounted on 18 inch Acura black OEM mags.  The 6 months of "winter" I run Blizzaks on the OEM 20s'.  The original OEMs tires are pretty crappy so I run them 6 months when new and they go back on when the vehicle gets returned.

Next set of winters will be studded and as such I'll be fine with a non premium brand like Firestone 

[bridgecity]

Curious as to your reasoning for running dedicated winters in the summer months.

[HeliDriver]

6/32” is my rule of thumb for when winter tires are done.

[Gurgie]

Look at the wear bars on the tires. Usually winter tires have the wear bars much higher in the groove of the tread (so let's sat 6/32's vs all seasons at 3/32's) vs an all season or summer tire.

At the end of the day, common sense dude, there is no one specific formula for everyone. Don't you live out west or something like that? If so, you probably need more than 3/32's.

Now I feel like ArticSteve with my rant


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[ktm525]

Yup 6/32 is done for winter use. My all seasons were getting squirrelly in the rain at 4/32 so they are likely done unless I try to squeeze one more summer out of them. They are fine until it rains hard on the highway.

[Layne]

6/32” is my rule of thumb for when winter tires are done.

100%

[ArticSteve]

Curious as to your reasoning for running dedicated winters in the summer months.

You asked for it. 

Leased 2019 MDX in October/2019.  Dealer was offering 4 OEM 18 Enkei wheels with Michelin X-Ice.  Take it or leave it on the tire brand.  Fine tire for a Toronto winter, but not a tire for the snowbelt.  Cost with sensors was $2200 and they rolled those into the lease.  Excellent deal.  Ended up costing me about $1500.  Switched back and forth between wheels as the seasons came and went.  At the end of 3 years in Sept/2021, I returned the 2019 without the Enkeis and drove away with a 2022 with your run of the mill 20 inch All Season Bridgestones on the factory alloys.  But I needed snows in 2 months.

So I had a great set of OEM black 18 inch alloys on hand to put new winters on.  Then I was gifted a set of 20 inch Blizzacks exact OEM size with maybe 10K km on them.  So the cheapest option was to remove the Bridgestones and store them away until the vehicle is returned and install the 20 inch Blizzacks on the factory 20 inch OEM alloys.  So the winter tire issue was solved.

So the factory Bridgestones weren't obviously going on the 18 inch Enkeis so I decided to run the Michelins in the summer season and have for two seasons.  Tread is still great except for snow which it was never good.  Naturally, sensors from the 2019 generation not compatible with 2022 and up so the light pops up on every start.   Easy to turn off though.

The MDX is definitely gone September 2024.  I just looked at the mileage at it's only 44K km not 64K like I thought.  So at that time I will remove the Blizzacks and re- install the original Bridgestone all seasons and dutifully point this out to the Dealer as they point out all the wear and tear to me.  That should shut them up as the Bridgestones might have all of 4K km on them.  However, rotors are pulsing.  Really irritating.  Had problems with the 2019 as well.  Barely made it down there to trade in 2022.  I think it's the excess green road salt the vehicle sees or maybe just sh*t rotors.

In September of 2024, I will revert to normal practice and buy some studded winters for the 18 inch Enkeis along with 4 new generation senors.

[capriracer]

The legal minimum for tread depth for winter tires varies a lot by locale.  You'll need to find what the regulations are where you live.

However, many folks use 3.5mm as the minimum tread depth for winter tires.

[KD]

I measured ~5mm on my X-Ice3s before replacing them last week. 

[WP v3.32]

They are just about  6.5/32 almost 7 so they are done. I'll keep them for 1 more summer

Which  winters has the longest  life span again? The X ice?

[EV Dan]

They are just about  6.5/32 almost 7 so they are done. I'll keep them for 1 more summer

Which  winters has the longest  life span again? The X ice?

On a RWD sedan I had Xi-3 last me 7 years and even at the end there was no perceived lack of traction. I hope Xi-snow or whatever the name is now are just as good. For the next winter set I'm leaning toward Conti Viking 7, based on many things I've read and watched about them. Rolling on General Arctic 12 now, "no wear" after 2 seasons