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Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« on: January 15, 2018, 06:32:38 pm »
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2018, 07:17:48 pm »
Front seat heater controls; where located?
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2018, 07:46:17 pm »
Question answered.  Saw them here;  http://driving.ca/toyota/avalon/auto-shows/detroit-auto-show/ford-mustang-bullitt-toyota-avalon-prove-suvs-arent-everything

Problem is that they are located above the shifty buttons necessitating a reach up.  At least not located in the touch screen like the TLX which is dumb and cheap.

Informed that AWD is "torque vectoring".  Waiting to see what they mean by that.  Currently it's just slip and grip AWD so probably an improvement.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #3 on: January 16, 2018, 09:59:19 am »
Quote from: ArticSteve on January 15, 2018, 07:46:17 pm
Question answered.  Saw them here;  http://driving.ca/toyota/avalon/auto-shows/detroit-auto-show/ford-mustang-bullitt-toyota-avalon-prove-suvs-arent-everything

Problem is that they are located above the shifty buttons necessitating a reach up.  At least not located in the touch screen like the TLX which is dumb and cheap.

Informed that AWD is "torque vectoring".  Waiting to see what they mean by that.  Currently it's just slip and grip AWD so probably an improvement.

Hopefully thr RDX will have a better showing than it did.

http://www.gminsidenews.com/articles/47218-2/


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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #4 on: January 16, 2018, 10:07:58 am »
And there it is.  Right on cue.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2018, 01:22:17 pm »
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Featuring a 10.2-inch centre display ... the system places ... features a touchpad application mapped at exactly 1:1 relative scale. This reportedly makes for a more intuitive interface than traditional touchpad systems eff you at Lexus.
FTFY.

Quote from: ArticSteve on January 15, 2018, 07:17:48 pm
Front seat heater controls; where located?

Quote from: ArticSteve on January 15, 2018, 07:46:17 pm
Question answered.
Glad you found them up there.

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next-generation Super Handling All-Wheel-Drive system
The first gen RDX had SH-AWD, and then the second, in a move to reduce fuel consumption, went to the slip n' grip system from the CRV.  This generation brings back SH-AWD, which is actually kind of huge news.

SH-AWD is an active torque-vectoring system that overdrives the outside rear wheel.  Quite a useful system.
https://youtu.be/IBIUx4Tma7A?t=87
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2018, 01:51:36 pm »
Unless this system has been updated SH-AWD only sends 70% of torque forward and ends up stuck on flat rollers, let alone incline rollers.  Both Lexus NX and RX only send 50% rearward as does the 2nd Gen RDX.   Only the RX has torque vectoring of these three but it is brake-based like Subaru introduced in 2017.

"Here, the Buick and Acura were placed on rollers under each wheel except the left front, so three wheels had zero traction and the one traction surface was under the front not rear wheel. In this case, the Envision could deliver torque to the left front wheel and drive off. The Acura could not and had to be pushed off; it could get going if the wheel still on the ground was a rear wheel. What does this prove? In the occasional circumstance where you’re stopped and both rear wheels and one front wheel are on, say, glare ice, only one car, Buick, will be able to start up without a push."

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/244191-buick-joins-torque-vectoring-goes-snow-wheel-drive-show
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2018, 02:03:29 pm »
Funny...you can search pretty much any AWD car with the word "snow" on Youtube and find a video testing it out.

...can't find a single one for the 2016 Buick Envision Premium II (or any Envision, for that matter), other than the "cold weather testing" published by Buick itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnYqi_k8w-w

Third party reviewers have found that SH-AWD is quite a capable system.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ryxvcZltEw

Considering that the 3rd gen RDX is now announced, I see no reason for you to post links of the 2nd gen with a vastly different AWD system.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2018, 03:31:53 pm »
Yeah, going back to SH-AWD is pretty big news.  Hopefully this generation is more engaging than the 2nd Gen.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2018, 10:04:33 pm »
The 2nd gen was so incredibly dull and beige.

I think the current crop of Honda models is much better relatively speaking than Acura stuff. Its like they actually try with the Honda stuff because they have to compete, but Acura just sells you something vaguely similar to a luxury brand for 30% less than an actual luxury car, so the designers just slap some :censor: together and call it a day.

Hopefully this RDX is a sign of change but I don't want to get my hopes up.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2018, 07:26:14 am »
Quote from: mmret on January 16, 2018, 10:04:33 pm
The 2nd gen was so incredibly dull and beige.

I think the current crop of Honda models is much better relatively speaking than Acura stuff. Its like they actually try with the Honda stuff because they have to compete, but Acura just sells you something vaguely similar to a luxury brand for 30% less than an actual luxury car, so the designers just slap some :censor: together and call it a day.

Hopefully this RDX is a sign of change but I don't want to get my hopes up.


That's been kind of my take on Acura as well. As Volvo has tried to move upmarket they seem to be left in this limbo of not quite mainstream but not a luxury brand either. 

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Just to be clear having a "near luxury" segment is not necessarily a bad thing.  It gives people an additional choice sort of the way Buick used to 50-60 years ago when they could choose it over Chev or Cadillac.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2018, 08:52:06 am »
Quote from: tortoise on January 16, 2018, 03:31:53 pm
Yeah, going back to SH-AWD is pretty big news.  Hopefully this generation is more engaging than the 2nd Gen.

SH-AWD in the RDX wasn't good enough back then to put torque to the wheel with the most traction, right-rear, in this example.

https://youtu.be/Llug5XFJsf8
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2018, 08:56:01 am »
Yawn.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #13 on: January 17, 2018, 09:08:46 am »
Quote from: NormT on January 17, 2018, 08:52:06 am
Quote from: tortoise on January 16, 2018, 03:31:53 pm
Yeah, going back to SH-AWD is pretty big news.  Hopefully this generation is more engaging than the 2nd Gen.

SH-AWD in the RDX wasn't good enough back then to put torque to the wheel with the most traction, right-rear, in this example.

https://youtu.be/Llug5XFJsf8
In that example of some random folk in Russia, with unknown tires and driving skill?

Show me the video of your beloved 2016 Buick Envision Premium II going up the same hill, Mr. Buick-is-God.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2018, 10:01:11 am »
No driving skills needed if you are just flooring it with TC off.  Half way through this video you can see where there is not 70% of thr torque going forward from a stop as the rear spins and goes sideways and the driver corrects to full lock right to keep it straight.

https://youtu.be/BDZ7oI8U8ng
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2018, 10:27:17 am »
Quote from: NormT on January 17, 2018, 10:01:11 am
No driving skills needed if you are just flooring it with TC off. 
And that's where driving skills would come in - not flooring it with TC off...

...and look, the next video that came up shows an MDX doing just fine in much worse conditions:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q_ayXyu7hU
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2018, 01:07:10 pm »
Not really looking at this big lugs on the tires.  Plenty of grip and smooth incline with all the weight on the back tires.

This one is more entertaining.

https://youtu.be/eodOp_8KhPM
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #17 on: January 17, 2018, 01:09:39 pm »
Yup.  Definitely entertaining - definitely still not the best way to drive in deeper snow, but entertaining nonetheless.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #18 on: January 17, 2018, 04:16:18 pm »
Quote from: No-san on January 17, 2018, 01:09:39 pm
Yup.  Definitely entertaining - definitely still not the best way to drive in deeper snow, but entertaining nonetheless.
that is the worst way to drive in deep snow...all that does is create a lack of traction as well as a layer of ice under the snow from the heat generated by the spinning tires.
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Re: Preview: 2019 Acura RDX Prototype
« Reply #19 on: January 17, 2018, 11:20:10 pm »
Quote from: NormT on January 17, 2018, 10:01:11 am
No driving skills needed if you are just flooring it with TC off.  Half way through this video you can see where there is not 70% of thr torque going forward from a stop as the rear spins and goes sideways and the driver corrects to full lock right to keep it straight.

https://youtu.be/BDZ7oI8U8ng

That’s a tire problem, the AWD system is working just fine.


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