Glad that both Volt and Prius Prime are competing for buyers.Having experienced the 2017 Volt in person a few weeks ago, it's a credible ride and has excellent technology for the price.The Prime offers something a bit different looks wise than the Volt, not sure if that will sell or anti-sell, but it's nice to have a range of options to plug-in.In talking to someone looking, they dismissed the Prime for looks alone, even though I explained the improvements to the plugin (range, tech), there were no other reasons to dismiss, just a preference on looks. They drive a Toyota now, so are positive on the brand, and looked at the RAV4 Hybrid, and will be checking out the Volt next.
They drive a Toyota now, so are positive on the brand, and looked at the RAV4 Hybrid, and will be checking out the Volt next.Remove the Ontario GOV subsidy and these vehicles are history. It will happen in slightly less than 1 1/2 years.
Quote from: ArticSteve on January 02, 2017, 07:47:06 pmThey drive a Toyota now, so are positive on the brand, and looked at the RAV4 Hybrid, and will be checking out the Volt next.Remove the Ontario GOV subsidy and these vehicles are history. It will happen in slightly less than 1 1/2 years. You think if the Prius Prime was $30K CDN with no incentives it wouldn't sell?
Which Prime ? The base is crap for the money charged . The next one up with a heated seat and big centre screen is $$38,700 converted from US pricing. Add the $1800 Freight and we are looking at $40K CDN. (finance rate is another story).
Need to wait for official Canadian pricing.
No Gov subsidies here in NB. I don't know if I have ever seen a Volt in the flesh....and very few Prius.....Priuii?...Prius's?
Quote from: sailor723 on January 02, 2017, 08:09:44 pmNo Gov subsidies here in NB. I don't know if I have ever seen a Volt in the flesh....and very few Prius.....Priuii?...Prius's?Wow, very different here. I easily see 5 to 10 Volts everyday, plus a couple Tesla and Leaf.
According to reliable sources the 2018 Prime would get a 14 kWh battery and would would see it's EV range go from 40 to 80 km. That is Volt like range + a more efficient engine.
While a significant improvement over its predecessor the Prius Plug-in, the Prime’s internal combustion engine continues to turn on unpredictably and it cannot function as a complete car without gasoline.
A car is not complete without gasoline....Sent from my SM-G900W8 using Tapatalk
And yet (as pointed out in another thread), where I live, a Prius is more efficient than an EV like the Smart Electric.
Quote from: rrocket on February 28, 2017, 12:06:48 amAnd yet (as pointed out in another thread), where I live, a Prius is more efficient than an EV like the Smart Electric.I've seen your US power generation examples, but isn't the OPG grid fairly green, in terms of CO2 anyway?
Quote from: EV Dan on February 28, 2017, 12:54:02 pmQuote from: rrocket on February 28, 2017, 12:06:48 amAnd yet (as pointed out in another thread), where I live, a Prius is more efficient than an EV like the Smart Electric.I've seen your US power generation examples, but isn't the OPG grid fairly green, in terms of CO2 anyway?I was talking efficiency (cost to fuel)...not pollution.Indeed...Ontario is very clean.