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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #60 on: January 08, 2014, 05:42:06 pm »
Pretty coincidental. The bus I'm on was just rear ended. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts the car had all seasons.

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How about dollars to doughnuts that the bus you are on has all-seasons?

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Re: Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #61 on: January 08, 2014, 06:44:29 pm »
Pretty coincidental. The bus I'm on was just rear ended. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts the car had all seasons.

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How about dollars to doughnuts that the bus you are on has all-seasons?


Like semi trucks, it weighs enough and doesn't travel often/fast enough to be significant .

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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #62 on: January 08, 2014, 11:16:25 pm »
Pretty coincidental. The bus I'm on was just rear ended. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts the car had all seasons.

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How about dollars to doughnuts that the bus you are on has all-seasons?

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They aren't. Not in the automotive sense.

A 7500kg+ bus responds very differently than a 1500kg Dynasty. When I was in the salmon business we had 5 tonne boom trucks. Loaded up with fish you could push through snow banks well up to the bumper on their fleet tires. Unloaded they were pretty well useless. The same principal is at work here.

And an urban bus fleet operating on a tight budget is operating under very different circumstances than a private vehicle owner.

To think that someone will buy or lease a $30k vehicle, then decide not to get the protection of winter tires because they're too cheap to kick in another grand. It boggles the mind.

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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #63 on: January 08, 2014, 11:18:11 pm »
Pretty coincidental. The bus I'm on was just rear ended. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts the car had all seasons.

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How about dollars to doughnuts that the bus you are on has all-seasons?

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They aren't. Not in the automotive sense.

A 7500kg+ bus responds very differently than a 1500kg Dynasty. When I was in the salmon business we had 5 tonne boom trucks. Loaded up with fish you could push through snow banks well up to the bumper on their fleet tires. Unloaded they were pretty well useless. The same principal is at work here.

And an urban bus fleet operating on a tight budget is operating under very different circumstances than a private vehicle owner.

To think that someone will buy or lease a $30k vehicle, then decide not to get the protection of winter tires because they're too cheap to kick in another grand. It boggles the mind.

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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #64 on: January 08, 2014, 11:19:33 pm »
Especially as centres like Winnipeg and Regina cut back on their snow attack.

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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #65 on: January 08, 2014, 11:45:31 pm »
To think that someone will buy or lease a $30k vehicle, then decide not to get the protection of winter tires because they're too cheap to kick in another grand. It boggles the mind.
and your "grand" is being generous...bought my four WS70s for about $525 taxes in...you can get great winter tires for a decent price nowadays...not only that, many insurance companies even give a small discount if you use them...mine gives 5%, so i save about $40/year by having them...after 5 years, that's almost half my money back in insurance discounts.
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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #66 on: January 09, 2014, 01:34:13 am »
Pretty coincidental. The bus I'm on was just rear ended. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts the car had all seasons.

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How about dollars to doughnuts that the bus you are on has all-seasons?

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They aren't. Not in the automotive sense.

A 7500kg+ bus responds very differently than a 1500kg Dynasty. When I was in the salmon business we had 5 tonne boom trucks. Loaded up with fish you could push through snow banks well up to the bumper on their fleet tires. Unloaded they were pretty well useless. The same principal is at work here.

And an urban bus fleet operating on a tight budget is operating under very different circumstances than a private vehicle owner.

To think that someone will buy or lease a $30k vehicle, then decide not to get the protection of winter tires because they're too cheap to kick in another grand. It boggles the mind.

I'm sure those heavy large suburban suv driver will use the same excuse not to use winter tires... ie they are heavy enough.

I will go with the point that city buses rarely get to a speed that would make them lose traction... but it could still occur.
Didn't fobby experience a "slip and slide" semi?
I'm guessing that the semi didn't have winter tires either.

I suppose semi may put on tire chains here in Alberta to get up some mountainous terrain near the rockies.
Work sites in northern Alberta have construction equipment put down sand and gravel during winter and vehicles don't need winter tires.
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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #67 on: January 09, 2014, 01:49:06 am »
Especially as centres like Winnipeg and Regina cut back on their snow attack.

I'll agree that is a main culprit but why not going even further like that city councillor and make everyone have AWD as well?

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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #68 on: January 09, 2014, 01:58:13 am »
Pretty coincidental. The bus I'm on was just rear ended. I'd bet dollars to doughnuts the car had all seasons.

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How about dollars to doughnuts that the bus you are on has all-seasons?


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They aren't. Not in the automotive sense.

A 7500kg+ bus responds very differently than a 1500kg Dynasty. When I was in the salmon business we had 5 tonne boom trucks. Loaded up with fish you could push through snow banks well up to the bumper on their fleet tires. Unloaded they were pretty well useless. The same principal is at work here.

And an urban bus fleet operating on a tight budget is operating under very different circumstances than a private vehicle owner.

To think that someone will buy or lease a $30k vehicle, then decide not to get the protection of winter tires because they're too cheap to kick in another grand. It boggles the mind.

I'm sure those heavy large suburban suv driver will use the same excuse not to use winter tires... ie they are heavy enough.

I will go with the point that city buses rarely get to a speed that would make them lose traction... but it could still occur.
Didn't fobby experience a "slip and slide" semi?
I'm guessing that the semi didn't have winter tires either.

I suppose semi may put on tire chains here in Alberta to get up some mountainous terrain near the rockies.
Work sites in northern Alberta have construction equipment put down sand and gravel during winter and vehicles don't need winter tires.

I had an encounter with an idiot in a Buick Enclave that couldnt get up a small hill to a 4way stop....upon questioning her, "I dont neen snow tires, this is a big 4x4".....so yeah, Id like to protect myself from people like her. After shutting the traction control off and a little coaching, she made it to the stop sign  ::) Yeah, I had a semi come at me sideways down a road....
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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #69 on: January 09, 2014, 05:20:52 am »
To think that someone will buy or lease a $30k vehicle, then decide not to get the protection of winter tires because they're too cheap to kick in another grand. It boggles the mind.
and your "grand" is being generous...bought my four WS70s for about $525 taxes in...you can get great winter tires for a decent price nowadays...not only that, many insurance companies even give a small discount if you use them...mine gives 5%, so i save about $40/year by having them...after 5 years, that's almost half my money back in insurance discounts.

Not to mention that every month you drive on winter tires postpones the the day your all seasons need replacement by a month.
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Re: Northern Exposure: Santa Fe vs Snowstorm
« Reply #70 on: January 09, 2014, 07:48:29 am »
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