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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2015, 08:25:22 am »
Thanks folks. That emissions stuff will be coming out shortly.

Re. Historic plates...It seems like it's kind of a grey area, or at least something that's not well enforced. In my mom's case she has the car on normal "daily driver" insurance, and she's had the historic plates for years without any issues. Keeping in mind that she's retired and doesn't commute in the car anyway. When I got the Trans Am plated they offered Historic plates stating that as long as it wasn't my primary car (they could see my other registered cars) it was fine. But since I do commute in the T/A I figured I'd play it safe and get regular plates.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2015, 12:00:36 pm »
Great find, and fantastic detailing work!

I was wondering what the neighbours think of your fleet, but then noticed they have the same virus... Noticed the malaise-era Corvette and Grand Prix accross the street!
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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2015, 12:32:16 pm »
Thanks folks. That emissions stuff will be coming out shortly.

Re. Historic plates...It seems like it's kind of a grey area, or at least something that's not well enforced. In my mom's case she has the car on normal "daily driver" insurance, and she's had the historic plates for years without any issues. Keeping in mind that she's retired and doesn't commute in the car anyway. When I got the Trans Am plated they offered Historic plates stating that as long as it wasn't my primary car (they could see my other registered cars) it was fine. But since I do commute in the T/A I figured I'd play it safe and get regular plates.

The rules are pretty clear, but seem to be not enforced. The letter of the law states:

In order to obtain Historical plates the owner must sign a declaration stating the following to be true. The vehicle in question,
(a) is at least 30 years old,
(b) is operated on a highway in parades, for purposes of exhibition, tours or similar functions organized by a properly constituted automobile club or for purposes of repair, testing or demonstration for sale,
(c) is substantially unchanged or unmodified from the original manufacturer’s product, and
(d) does not have attached to it year-of-manufacture plates.

That being said, I have them on the TR6 and I don't recall signing a specific statement to the above effect, although it was likely in the small print against a tick box or such like. All the MTO asked was "is this your daily driver". Logically, I've paid to use the roads with my daily driver and I can't drive both cars at once, so paying a small "admin fee" rather than the full sticker cost is justifiable.

In practice, clause (b) is your get out of jail card "....purposes of repair, testing or ...". "Yes, officer I've just changed the carb's dashpot oil viscosity and am testing the pick up" or some other equally obscure, but completely true and impossible to verify change :)

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2015, 01:58:39 pm »
That's awesome, what a great find!  :cheers:
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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2015, 02:24:13 pm »
Thanks.
I am having a heck of a time finding a paint match for this factory color though :(

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #25 on: September 07, 2015, 11:01:48 pm »
Made it a quiet Labour Day weekend and spent a good portion of the time on the MGB.

The interior was actually pretty good, so Mrs. Firm tackled detailing it. You can't see it in the photo, but the carpet on the side rail on the driver's side needs to be replaced - another project for another day.





I battled the heat for 4-6 hours/day for the 3 days wetsanding, compounding and waxing the paint to bring it back to life. Overall I am pretty happy with it, only the hood still looks a little sun damaged.

I took a few pics to show the improved state of the paint...Note that the luggage rack is off for the pics; I need to get new mounting hardware as the mismatched woodscrews used by the previous owner arn't cutting it.

I've got a short list of outstanding mechanical jobs: cooling fan temp sensor, re-wire the radio, fix a sticking rear brake shoe and replace the oil filter adapter gasket. While I am at it I'll refresh all the fluids.

Cosmetically I need to fix a couple minor rust spots, touch up a bunch of chips/scratches and re-paint the wheels. Beyond that it's just tinkering (detailing the engine bay and what not) to being it up to my standards.






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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #26 on: September 08, 2015, 08:13:53 am »
Lookin' sweeet, even with the top up  ;)

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2015, 01:23:16 pm »
Thanks Guys.

One thing about living in the salt belt is that the cars that did survive were not winter driven, so if they're still around at this point chances are they were cared for summer drivers. This one has only 40,000 original (documented) miles.

Fob, storage sucks here :( If I didn't have a storage restriction I'd probably have a much larger fleet   ;D
This MGB will go in my garage at home for now though, since selling the Spitfire I've had the one side open...Well, I've been parking one of the Firebirds (whichever I am not using) in there, but the Birds can live outside in the driveway.

Great car choice!

Do you insure all of your fleet all of the time?


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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #28 on: September 09, 2015, 02:06:41 pm »
Thanks Guys.

One thing about living in the salt belt is that the cars that did survive were not winter driven, so if they're still around at this point chances are they were cared for summer drivers. This one has only 40,000 original (documented) miles.

Fob, storage sucks here :( If I didn't have a storage restriction I'd probably have a much larger fleet   ;D
This MGB will go in my garage at home for now though, since selling the Spitfire I've had the one side open...Well, I've been parking one of the Firebirds (whichever I am not using) in there, but the Birds can live outside in the driveway.

Great car choice!

Do you insure all of your fleet all of the time?

Thanks :)
The classic stuff (older than 30 years) I do insure all the time - it's cheap enough (~$200/year per car) that it's not even worth the time/risk associated with switching it around. In the winter I'll usually pull any "newer" cars that I am not driving off road coverage and leave only fire/theft ($10/month)...Recently that's been the SLK only.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #29 on: September 09, 2015, 04:52:04 pm »
Wow that's cheap, I'm assuming limited mileage.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #30 on: September 09, 2015, 06:56:45 pm »
Yeah, sort of. I am with Hagerty and I am on one of their "driver" packages or whatever they call it. It allows use of the vehicle anywhere or time (so driving to work or shopping is allowed), but they've got mileage restrictions which you can set accordingly.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #31 on: September 10, 2015, 03:42:23 pm »
Awesome! Locally there is a 1978 (been re-painted) with 133,000km with an asking price of $16,500....

I've admired your fleet of vehicles and wonder if you do anything to prevent rust? 

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #32 on: September 10, 2015, 04:01:13 pm »
Thanks! $16.5K is probably a little rich. Good driver's tend to go for around $5-8K around here, really nice original cars maybe $8-10K and a pristine showcar might but $11-12K. There are exceptions though, cars with ridiculous low mileage and such.

Rust is the #1 enemy of any old car lover. I have a strict regiment to help prevent it, and so far it's worked pretty well. Firstly, any car that gets driven in wet weather gets a Krown oil spray every year, usually in the fall. Then I buy cans of "rust cure 3000", an oil based spray, and go around monthly to touch up the high risk areas....wheel wells, rocker panel areas, floor seems, anywhere water tends to collect.

Keeping them clean is also important, I always try to mimize the amount of time a car has salt on it at temperatures at or above freezing (extreme cold is fine as there's usually no moisture around to activate the salt). I also keep a good coat of wax on everything. In the non-salt months I don't go crazy with the washing either, I'd rather have some light dirt/dust on the car that get it wet washing it.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #33 on: September 16, 2015, 04:31:08 pm »
Built up a couple coats of synthetic wax (Mequires TechWax) and it really brought up the shine....Excuse the oily cardboard, I am still waiting on a new oil filter adapter gasket to arrive.


Also got the first wheel repainted and back on the car, 4 to go (I need to do the visible spare). It's a longer process than the Spitfire wheels were because these use two colors. So I gotta spray silver and then wait two days for it to dry complete before I can brush on the black.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #34 on: September 16, 2015, 04:42:51 pm »
She's looking sweeter from one post to the next!

Keeper or place holder?

Firm, since you're the resident master detailer, I have a paint fade issue not with a car, but with my Garaga garage door. It doesn't show well in the Streetview clip, but thr front door is the same colour as the garage door, and most of the day the sun hits that garage door from mid-morning to sundown. The paint has faded quite a bit.

The finish is porbably not as sturdy as a car's, so what do you suggest I try? Wife suggests a re-paint, of course. Door dates from 2006.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #35 on: September 16, 2015, 04:53:11 pm »
Place holder...The Blue 78 is nicer, no point in keeping two.

Gorgeous house and interlock/stone work! Jesus, I'd be so worried about getting oil stains all over that! Not sure I'd consider myself *the* master detailer around here...But, I am assuming the door is metal (aluminium)? If so I'd try a single stage polish, something like NuFinish. It's not strong enough to damage anything, so at the very least I don't see it doing any harm. At best it'll remove some of the oxidization and bring the color back...Maybe try a small 6"x6" section first to see if it's worth doing the whole door.

I have a gloss black painted (metal) front door and I polish it with NuFinish once a year to keep the shine up.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2015, 08:56:05 am »
Place holder...The Blue 78 is nicer, no point in keeping two.

Gorgeous house and interlock/stone work! Jesus, I'd be so worried about getting oil stains all over that! Not sure I'd consider myself *the* master detailer around here...But, I am assuming the door is metal (aluminium)? If so I'd try a single stage polish, something like NuFinish. It's not strong enough to damage anything, so at the very least I don't see it doing any harm. At best it'll remove some of the oxidization and bring the color back...Maybe try a small 6"x6" section first to see if it's worth doing the whole door.

I have a gloss black painted (metal) front door and I polish it with NuFinish once a year to keep the shine up.

Thanks! If it works on black, it should work on "sablon", which is a dark grey / Brown palette. We had this house built for our specs, which was fun, but being one of the earliest builts in our neighbourhood, we were copied a lot! At least our pavers and landscaping are different. I once had oil on it (from a washer issue after a dealership oil change) and was able to brush it off with the proper products. I'd love an MG B, but drips would make me nuts!! The garage has a polyaspartic coating that is pretty slick and easy to clean.

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« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2015, 09:15:38 am »
Wth that textured finish you might want to try a spray wax first, it won't last as long, but there's no risk of white waxy residue. If you do try the NuFinish, make sure you've got some good microfiber towels to rub any residue out of the texture.

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Re: Here We Go Again - 77 MGB
« Reply #38 on: September 28, 2015, 11:45:30 am »
The weather has been kind, so I've made a little more progress over the last couple weeks. Fixed the stereo, turns out a speaker wire was caught in the window mechanism and thus shorting out the headunit...Radio worked with the window down, but roll the window up and it would cut out. I serviced the rear brakes and got them working correctly, along with the hand brake. Solved the oil leak from the filter adapter too (it was loose). Still need to replace the coolant temp sensor, and a bunch of cosmetic rubbers...put the parts order in last night so hope to have everything in a couple weeks.

My main focus with the weather has been good has been the exterior...This weekend I spent a few hours repairing the 2 rust spots on the car and I started the process of going around and touching up 40 years of chips and scratches...only got 2 panels done, lol. I've also got 3/5 wheels refinished at this point.

Photo from yesterday (this side has 2 of the finished wheels).


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« Reply #39 on: September 28, 2015, 12:27:09 pm »
Radio worked with the window down, but roll the window up and it would cut out.

So British!

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