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Electric Vehicle News Thread
« on: December 31, 2014, 10:11:02 am »
Hyundai to launch electric vehicles in 2016
By Kim Yoo-chul

Hyundai Motor will release its first electric vehicle (EV) in 2016, with LG Chem supplying batteries for the car, officials said Tuesday.

The contract for supplying batteries will run until 2018, according to an official from an LG affiliate.

A Hyundai Motor official said the automaker is ready to launch EVs in 2016. This is a major change for the automaker as it has not been as aggressive in the development of EVs as its foreign rivals.

The demand for EVs has been dwindling due to declining oil prices and the increase in the development of shale gas reserves.

However, the official said the addition of EVs will help the automaker strengthen its portfolio ahead of its international competitors.

"Hyundai's first pure EV will be a mid-sized sedan. Equipped with improved batteries, enhanced system management and lighter materials, the upcoming model will weigh about 30 percent less than existing hybrid EVs," said the official.

Albert Biermann, recently scouted by Hyundai as executive vice president from BMW, will be in charge of the design of the EVs.

Hyundai seeks to establish a better product lineup ranging from hybrids to pure EVs.

Unlike plug-in hybrid EVs (PHEVs), which use both gasoline and batteries, pure EVs are powered just by batteries.

Officials at Hyundai's major local battery partners including SK Innovation said the automaker plans to expand its PHEV models to 12 by 2020 from the current four.

Hyundai plan to launch an electric sports car and a sports utility vehicles (SUVs) as well as small-sized sedans.

For electric SUVs, Hyundai separately agreed with the SK Group's battery affiliate to procure batteries until 2017 to diversify its battery sourcing channels.

Data from research firms showed PHEVs are receiving quite a response from customers in the United States.

By November this year, 83,647 electric cars were sold in America. PHEVs accounted for 55 percent of the electric cars sold in the U.S.

The all-electric Nissan Leaf and range-extended Chevy Volt are the top sellers this year, accounting for almost 50 percent of EV sales.

"It will be interesting to see how new government policies, the development of new models and lower energy prices play out in major EV markets," said an LG official.

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http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/tech/2014/12/133_170796.html

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Re: General Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2014, 10:49:25 am »
And here I thought GE was launching a vehicle  :).
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Re: General Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2014, 11:28:14 am »
Me too!   :rofl2: :rofl2:

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2015, 10:22:02 pm »
BMW will give Hydrogen a shot, but their marketing boss has his doubts about the tech's future:
http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-cars/bmw-confirms-hydrogen-car-development

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread - Chevy BOLT
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2015, 01:29:01 pm »
Not as in Bacon Onions Lettuce Tomatoes, but a rumoured debut of a budget pure EV from Chevrolet.
From autoblog:
"It's not news that General Motors is working on a $30,000 electric vehicle with a 200-mile range. Then-CEO Dan Akerson said as much back in 2013. What we've heard before is that this mystery EV will be based on the Chevrolet Sonic and will will arrive in 2017. So, if that's all correct, then it would make sense that confirmation of this plan would come at the 2015 Detroit Auto Show, which is just around the corner. And lookee here...

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that GM will unveil a concept Chevy Bolt at the Detroit show on Monday. That name sure makes sense, too, since GM registered that trademark back in August. According to the Journal, the rumored numbers – 200-mile range, $30,000 price – are still what's expected. Some new purported details are that the battery will come from LG Chem, which also makes the Volt's batteries, and that the Bolt will be a crossover that could be sold around the world. This all smacks of a preemptive strike against the Tesla Model 3, which is also due around 2017. Currently, GM sells the Spark EV in limited areas of the US, despite a lot of excitement for wider availability.

To sell a 200-mile EV for $30,000 means that GM and LG Chem will likely have drastically reduced the cost of making a big plug-in vehicle battery. What this means for the new Volt and GM's future plans is something we're more than a little excited about to learn more of on Monday, the same day that we get to see the redesigned Chevy Volt for the first time. Well, aside from the CES teaser."

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #5 on: January 10, 2015, 05:22:22 pm »
ORIGINAL Wall Street Journal article:
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By
John D. Stoll
Jan. 9, 2015 10:19 p.m. ET

General Motors Co. plans to launch a $30,000 electric vehicle called the Chevrolet Bolt that would be capable of driving 200 miles on a charge by 2017, according to people familiar with the strategy, a move to gain ground on Tesla Motors Inc.

GM will show off a concept version of the Bolt on Monday at the Detroit auto show, eight years after the auto giant disclosed it would re-enter the electric car market with the Chevrolet Volt. The Volt, on sale since late 2010 and redesigned for 2015, is being upgraded to get better capability and sharper design, and has a backup gasoline motor on board in case juice runs out.

The Chevy Bolt, carrying a more capable battery manufactured by South Korea’s LG Chem Ltd. , will be aimed squarely at Tesla’s forthcoming Model 3, a $35,000 electric car also slated to debut in 2017. The concept version of the electric car will be a hatchback designed to look more like a so-called crossover vehicle, according to people familiar with the design. The Bolt will be capable of driving four times farther than a Chevrolet Volt plug-in hybrid on a single charge.

GM has thus far struck out in its attempt to match its Silicon Valley rival. Recently, GM launched a $75,000 Cadillac ELR plug-in car that failed to dent Tesla’s dominance among luxury electric-vehicle buyers who have clamored for the Model S sedan.

By placing the Bolt in the high-volume Chevrolet line and giving it a name similar to the Volt, executives hope to polish Chevy’s image as a full-line vehicle manufacturer prepared to meet demand, regardless of prices at the pump, according to people familiar with the strategy. GM expects the Bolt to compete globally, including in markets such as China. It is unclear if a car similar to the Bolt would be inserted in the Opel, Cadillac or Buick brands down the road.

The Bolt represents the biggest risk taken by Chief Executive Mary Barra since taking GM’s helm a year ago. Its development was approved when she was product chief under former CEO Dan Akerson . But U.S. gasoline prices have fallen below $2 a gallon this year, hurting demand for electric cars.

While Tesla has sold relatively few Model S sedans since putting the car on sale in 2012, the Palo Alto, Calif., auto maker’s shares have soared on investor hopes for the company’s future.

Over Ms. Barra’s first year at GM’s helm, company shares fell 14% while Telsa shares soared 48%. Ms. Barra aims to have up to 500,000 electrified vehicles—including vehicles with partial-electric capabilities—on the road by 2017. In contrast, Tesla CEO Elon Musk has said he envisions up to 500,000 annual Tesla sales of pure electrics by 2020.

One factor motivating Ms. Barra is meeting regulations in the U.S., Europe and Asia that penalize full-line manufacturers when they sell too high a concentration of trucks and sport-utility vehicles, which are GM’s sweet spots. Ms. Barra, however, has insisted the company won’t build electric vehicles just “to check a regulatory box.”

AutoNation Inc. CEO Mike Jackson , who runs the largest U.S. auto retailer, said a vehicle like the Bolt shows a new attitude atop GM. The auto maker is now making big profits in the U.S. on its new trucks and SUVs in an era of low gas prices making the investment into more capable electric vehicles look more like a moonshot than a sound business decision.

“The old GM would have milked the cash cow until it was dry,” Mr. Jackson said in an interview. The new GM, he said, is showing signs that it is willing to take the long view. He estimates electric cars will compose 2% of the U.S. market, at most, in five years. “The industry will lose money on it,” he said.

GM’s track record with electrics remains spotty. The company shut down EV1 production in 1999, pulling the plug on a $1 billion electric-vehicle program that had impressed regulators but failed to reach commercial viability.

The Volt project started several years later. Heavily hyped by former GM CEOs and legendary product development chief Bob Lutz, the $35,000 car has been a disappointment despite hefty government subsidies.

Fewer than 90,000 Volts have sold globally since it went on sale in late 2010, and only 1,500 were delivered in December. The introduction of pure electric vehicles, such as Nissan Motor Co. ’s Leaf, which achieves 84 miles on a charge, and the relative success of Tesla’s pricey but more capable Model S sedan has overshadowed GM’s efforts.

The Volt is set for an overhaul in 2015. But it will be a smaller part of GM’s strategy than initially expected.

For Ms. Barra and other GM engineers, the Bolt’s proposed 200-mile range is critical because it is seen as addressing concerns about range long associated with electric cars, one person involved in the car’s development said. “Two hundred miles is seen as some sort of barrier where the notion of range anxiety goes away,” this person said.

Tesla has said its Model 3, due in 2017, will achieve about 200 miles on a charge. While less capable than the 85 kwh Model S, Mr. Musk plans to offer the Model 3 at a fraction of the price.

By the time the Bolt and the Model 3 hit the market, an onslaught of competitors, mostly from Europe, are expected to have long-range EVs available. Those cars, which could get more range, will likely be far more expensive than the Chevy.

While the electric car GM plans to build is far bigger than the economy car that has long been rumored, the Bolt will be smaller than Tesla’s Model S. The pouch battery cells that LG uses gives the auto maker flexibility to tuck the battery pack into a unique design in the vehicle.

The pack for GM’s new vehicle could be built in LG Chem’s Holland, Mich., plant, where the Volt batteries currently are made by the same supplier. That plant would have a capacity to build about 60,000 Volt battery packs, or 20,000 of the larger packs for a new EV, or a mixture of the two.

LG Chems’s battery improvements to make it possible to for GM to create the low-cost EV include better durability and electrical controls. Also, LG will use more of the available storage capacity in the cell than it does on the Volt. Plug-in hybrids can use less available storage capacity because of the constant charging from the gasoline engine. If more charge is used, it would limit the life of the battery.

“We have progressed far enough that it gives us a high level of confidence that in the 2017 kind of a time frame, there are no show stoppers or gotchas that we don’t know how to get over,” Prabhakar Patil, the chief executive of LG Chem Power Inc., the U.S.-based battery arm of the Korean electronics giant, said in an interview."

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2015, 09:55:30 am »
http://news.hydroquebec.com/press-releases/706/nissan-and-hydro-quebec-partner-to-expand-the-electric-circuit-public-charging-network-in-quebec

-They are adding quite a few DC chargers, the half-hour ones that is, kind of ppl need not to get stuck when on the go. Most other EVs, not only Nissan will be able to use them.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread - Gigafactory is being built!
« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2015, 07:53:23 pm »
The electric future is being built. Judging by the scale of the gigafactory, Musk is going to produce a gazillion of 18650 cells. Hopefully one day some may power my Model III  :)

http://youtu.be/C1uETD1rGJQ

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2015, 08:09:16 pm »
http://news.hydroquebec.com/press-releases/706/nissan-and-hydro-quebec-partner-to-expand-the-electric-circuit-public-charging-network-in-quebec

-They are adding quite a few DC chargers, the half-hour ones that is, kind of ppl need not to get stuck when on the go. Most other EVs, not only Nissan will be able to use them.

Yes, few are in operation right now http://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php?topic=91237.msg1078996#msg1078996 but I'm glad there are 25 more to come  :bounce:
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2015, 09:14:52 pm »
I love it, the BMW i3 commercial

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1jwWwJ-Mxc

The parallel is interesting: new technology at their beginning that chained the world..  8)

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #11 on: February 02, 2015, 08:32:49 pm »
Good interview and comment about fuel cells.

http://www.mining.com/hydrogen-fuel-cells-vehicles-are-extermely-silly-says-elon-musk-98462/

Great interview. Few things that piqued my interest:

When explaining delays of the Model X he mentions challenges with Falcon doors and stuff. It makes me wonder why you have to have them, along with disappearing handles on the Model S. I mean both are cool but who is gonna be swayed toward the X for its doors with their perceived or not issues? To just be different, why not do scissor doors and call it a day?

Around 10min mark he talks about fuel cells and actually makes a perfect explanation as to why H2 is a "terrible" idea. I wish he mentioned that currently over 90% of H2 is produced from natural gas, which makes an H2 car not only inefficient but essentially fueled by the good old hydro carbons.

Around 20min mark he mentions that the Chevy Bolt is gonna cost 30k after the 7.5k gov-t rebate and the Model III's 35k price is BEFORE. Let's hope Tesla will stick to that price tag.  Also I understood that the Model III may not have free access to Superchargers, at least that's what I got from the hint.

The interview gets a bit funnier by the end so it's well worth watching the whole thing. It's quite informative. Thanks for sharing, Snowman.
 

 

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread- Model III vs Bolt vs Leaf
« Reply #12 on: February 13, 2015, 12:51:13 pm »
http://insideevs.com/chevrolet-bolt-bmw-i3-killer-tesla-fighter-leaf-slayer/

They are wrong about the Tesla though. It could arrive later but according to Musk himself the target price is from 35k before rebates IIRC.

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"Tesla, Panasonic to bring battery plant online sooner

OSAKA -- A battery plant that Tesla Motors is building with Panasonic in the U.S. state of Nevada will begin operations in 2016, earlier than initially planned, a Tesla official said here Friday.

     The American electric-car manufacturer apparently wants to secure a supply of batteries fast on expectations of strong demand for a lower-priced vehicle due out as early as 2017.

     The plant's launch will be accelerated to bring down production costs through economies of scale, said Kurt Kelty, who oversees battery technologies at Tesla.

     The new facility will make high-output lithium-ion batteries for the Tesla Model 3, which will be priced half as high as other models. Plans call for getting domestic and foreign parts and materials suppliers to build production facilities on the grounds. Tesla has made progress in selecting suppliers, according to Kelty.

     Panasonic has a stake in Tesla and supplies the U.S. company with battery cells for electric vehicles. The Nevada plant is expected to cost up to roughly 500 billion yen ($4.16 billion), with Panasonic shouldering 150 billion yen to 200 billion yen.

(Nikkei)"

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread - scrap your diesel clunker and get 10,000
« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2015, 11:35:27 pm »
... in incentives toward the EV purchase. If you are in France:
http://insideevs.com/france-launches-e10000-bonus-to-switch-from-diesel-to-electric/
The subsidy is worth roughly half of the price of a Nissan Leaf or a similar Renault.
Kind of ironic since until recently they were subsidizing diesel cars, but good for them to finally come to their senses.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread - scrap your diesel clunker and get 10,000
« Reply #15 on: February 18, 2015, 11:39:56 pm »
... in incentives toward the EV purchase. If you are in France:
http://insideevs.com/france-launches-e10000-bonus-to-switch-from-diesel-to-electric/
The subsidy is worth roughly half of the price of a Nissan Leaf or a similar Renault.
Kind of ironic since until recently they were subsidizing diesel cars, but good for them to finally come to their senses.

I read somewhere (I forget where) where it was alleged that they were fudging the emission scores for diesels in Yurp...
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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread - a plug in RVR?
« Reply #16 on: February 25, 2015, 04:42:18 pm »
http://www.greencarcongress.com/2015/02/20150225-mmc.html
I think they will sell a ton of them in Europe, just like with the Outlander PHEV.
The fact that it uses a 120kW motor may suggest a Volt-like ER-EV setup, where only the electric motor drives the car and an engine is there to keep up the battery charge.

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Re: Electric Vehicle News Thread
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2015, 06:05:41 pm »
Spoiler alert: some things are faster than S85D. Meet Zombie 222:
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« Reply #19 on: April 14, 2015, 11:27:21 pm »
Brilliant, thanks for sharing!  Hoping this guy makes his dream a reality WRT fully electric muscle cars.