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Fuse keeps blowing
« on: June 23, 2016, 05:48:57 pm »
2008 Hyundai Entourage Limited.

The Air Bag light on the instrument cluster came on a few days ago.  Then yesterday I was driving the car at night, when I opened the door, I noticed the interior lights weren't coming on.  Forced them on manual, still nothing.  Checked the fuse for the interior lights, it was blown.  Replaced it, they worked fine.  Then at the same time the Air Bag light went off (although its a different fuse).  A few moments later the Air Bag light come back on.  I tried the interior lights, they weren't working.  Checked the fuse, blown!  Put a new fuse in, sparked on the spot!  Use the recommended rating.

At the moment, made an appt for the car to be serviced Wednesday morning.  Maybe I can find something on the forums on the weekend. 

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 07:23:47 pm »
Oh, you've got a short.  UGH.  They can be real bears to track down.  Yeah, check model specific forums first - this might be a known issue - diagnosis can be really hard.

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 08:01:30 pm »
Was this vehicle recently wired for a trailer?

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 08:03:36 pm »
Bigger fuse  ;D
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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2016, 08:13:13 pm »
Bigger fuse  ;D
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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2016, 08:13:34 pm »
Bigger fuse  ;D

HA!!  I thought the same thing!
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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2016, 08:28:38 pm »
It does work.  Start with a 20.   ;D

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2016, 10:12:06 pm »
You have a short someplace for sure.  Fun times.

I have a short in race car, just found tonight.  2 hours debugging getting closer....

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2016, 11:07:27 pm »
You have a short someplace for sure.  Fun times.

I have a short in race car, just found tonight.  2 hours debugging getting closer....

What race car?

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2016, 11:11:58 pm »
This kinda stuff sucks. You can read up on tips for findings shorts for days....but heres a couple things to try and think about...
Find out everything on that circuit and careful inspect the device itself for signs of damaged/corrosion. Failing that, shorts like to occur where wires are moving/bending regularly, like where they run through the door jam, rear hatch, or around the seats. Since you're getting an airbag light, and this thing likely has side impact bags in the seats, I'd take a good look underneath the seat to see if the harness is getting caught in the track....Or even move the seat around and see if that changes anything.
It hasn't rained in weeks, but have you taken it through a wash? Maybe water got in somewhere it shouldn't, check for wet carpets, headliner, or water in the overhead dome lights.

One thing I sometimes do (usually with the British stuff) is print a bunch of wiring schematics, lay them all out and using colored pencils trace back each wire from the known commonality (in this case the fuse), then go back to the car and check each connection/component along the way. It's tedious and frustration and I hate it. lol

Oh, and did you buy fuses from CT? If so, thanks for your support  ;D

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2016, 01:42:27 am »
This kinda stuff sucks. You can read up on tips for findings shorts for days....but heres a couple things to try and think about...
Find out everything on that circuit and careful inspect the device itself for signs of damaged/corrosion. Failing that, shorts like to occur where wires are moving/bending regularly, like where they run through the door jam, rear hatch, or around the seats. Since you're getting an airbag light, and this thing likely has side impact bags in the seats, I'd take a good look underneath the seat to see if the harness is getting caught in the track....Or even move the seat around and see if that changes anything.
It hasn't rained in weeks, but have you taken it through a wash? Maybe water got in somewhere it shouldn't, check for wet carpets, headliner, or water in the overhead dome lights.

One thing I sometimes do (usually with the British stuff) is print a bunch of wiring schematics, lay them all out and using colored pencils trace back each wire from the known commonality (in this case the fuse), then go back to the car and check each connection/component along the way. It's tedious and frustration and I hate it. lol

Oh, and did you buy fuses from CT? If so, thanks for your support  ;D

^This.

Electrical in cars is a PITA.

Does it have an aftermarket remote start? Cheap ones or bad installs can cause all sorts of issues.
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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2016, 08:18:40 am »
Thanks for the tips guys. 

No remote start.
A brake controller was added in May. 
Never washed the vehicle since I got it in April or so.
I will check for a wiring diagram online, forums, and connections under the seats. 


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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #12 on: June 24, 2016, 10:01:07 am »
You have a short someplace for sure.  Fun times.

I have a short in race car, just found tonight.  2 hours debugging getting closer....

What race car?

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #13 on: June 24, 2016, 11:24:04 am »
Thanks for the tips guys. 

No remote start.
A brake controller was added in May. 
Never washed the vehicle since I got it in April or so.
I will check for a wiring diagram online, forums, and connections under the seats.

Sometimes interior lights are also wired with other things, on an Audi my dash lights were wired with reverse lights or license plate lights or something.   Could be the problem is at the back of the car, have a good look at your trailer wiring and see what else is on the lighting circuit.
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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2016, 01:47:56 pm »
Thanks for the tips guys. 

No remote start.
A brake controller was added in May. 
Never washed the vehicle since I got it in April or so.
I will check for a wiring diagram online, forums, and connections under the seats.

Sometimes interior lights are also wired with other things, on an Audi my dash lights were wired with reverse lights or license plate lights or something.   Could be the problem is at the back of the car, have a good look at your trailer wiring and see what else is on the lighting circuit.

If I didn't have my eye injury, I would jack up the car some, and take a better look.  But I have to keep my eye clean, and wipe away the water from my tear ducts every so often. 

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2016, 02:52:42 pm »
You have a short someplace for sure.  Fun times.

I have a short in race car, just found tonight.  2 hours debugging getting closer....

What race car?

Neon
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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2016, 04:10:11 pm »
Found the cause for the fuse of the interior light that keeps blowing.  It's the overhead console.  That has the sunroof, power sliding doors, power tailgate.  It was cracked before (by my Dad), and I guess it's been used more by our family, with some bare wire inside, this is the cause.  Plastic is so brittle, will probably need a new one.  Dealer wants like $350 US, because it's the fackin limited trim.  4 autowreckers don't have any, because not a popular van.  Checking ebay, amazon, looks closer to $150 US.  But I want to confirm part # with dealer and the seller online. 

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2016, 04:33:05 pm »
Can't you just tape up the bare wire inside an use as is? Or is the whole thing going to fall apart when you try to get in there? Seems weird for a 2008 to have plastic that brittle....

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2016, 04:50:34 pm »
Found the cause for the fuse of the interior light that keeps blowing.  It's the overhead console.  That has the sunroof, power sliding doors, power tailgate.  It was cracked before (by my Dad), and I guess it's been used more by our family, with some bare wire inside, this is the cause.  Plastic is so brittle, will probably need a new one.  Dealer wants like $350 US, because it's the fackin limited trim.  4 autowreckers don't have any, because not a popular van.  Checking ebay, amazon, looks closer to $150 US.  But I want to confirm part # with dealer and the seller online.

Check out http://car-part.com/  It's a used part finding website linked in to thousands of wreckers.  If they won't ship to Canada, PM me and I'll give you my US address and I'll bring it across then mail it along to you.

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Re: Fuse keeps blowing
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2016, 08:44:36 pm »
Found the cause for the fuse of the interior light that keeps blowing.  It's the overhead console.  That has the sunroof, power sliding doors, power tailgate.  It was cracked before (by my Dad), and I guess it's been used more by our family, with some bare wire inside, this is the cause.  Plastic is so brittle, will probably need a new one.  Dealer wants like $350 US, because it's the fackin limited trim.  4 autowreckers don't have any, because not a popular van.  Checking ebay, amazon, looks closer to $150 US.  But I want to confirm part # with dealer and the seller online.

Check out http://car-part.com/  It's a used part finding website linked in to thousands of wreckers.  If they won't ship to Canada, PM me and I'll give you my US address and I'll bring it across then mail it along to you.

Thanks Rocket, when going to the website, I can't even find "Overhead Console" in the pull down list for parts.