Author Topic: Lincoln Continental concept (Read 14179 times)

Northernridge · « **Reply #20 on:** March 30, 2015, 05:19:04 pm »

Interesting effort that's for sure.

I'm digging the interior. The dash and centre stack are cool, I like the return of chrome. The door panels look good too, so do the seats. Just a sniff of retro in there. Nice.

The headlights and grill still look like a work in progress but I'm glad to see Lincoln experiment with a new grill treatment.

Sure, the segment is grandpa-digger but bring it on.

Sir Osis of Liver · « **Reply #21 on:** March 30, 2015, 05:31:23 pm »

Quote from: Tauri13 on March 30, 2015, 04:38:36 pm

Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on March 30, 2015, 12:53:27 pm
The new full size Continental is scheduled for release in 2016. The MKS and its platform are supposed to be phased out over the next few years.

Lots of speculation over whether this new one will be a RWD or FWD platform.

I think it looks pretty damned good.

LOL the C&D article explains things:

Officially, the Continental is a concept. But you’ll see a production version next year. Our sources suggest that the new Conti won’t ride on the MKS/Taurus platform, which is also shared with the Lincoln MKT and Ford Flex, but rather on an enlarged version of the CD4 platform, which underpins the Fusion and MKZ.

An all-new full size car was supposed to be on the new D6 platform, which can accommodate fwd, rwd and awd for large cars and midsize crossovers. I hope this isn't another stopgap. It's still pretty speculative in any event.

pi314 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 30, 2015, 05:40:49 pm »

I'm actually loving this more now. I like the slab shape, and as much as I hate to admit, I could see myself forgoing stickshift for this car, before the age of 80. Maybe I'll buy one used in a few years time

Something about the styling - it's just got this presence or something. The interior does a good job of paying homage to yesteryear while being modern.

Snowman Lexus is for 70 :p... or if IS-F etc 30/40s

Schmengie · « **Reply #23 on:** March 30, 2015, 05:52:16 pm »

Very nice looking, at least on the outside. But wow, all that chrome would make a '58 Buick jealous...

Snowman · « **Reply #24 on:** March 30, 2015, 05:56:01 pm »

There is comfort in knowing the accounts at GM will never let this happen.

pi314 · « **Reply #25 on:** March 30, 2015, 06:01:01 pm »

Quote from: Snowman on March 30, 2015, 05:56:01 pm

There is comfort in knowing the accounts at GM will never let this happen.

Yes because GM doesn't own Lincoln, and thank goodness

CanuckS2K · « **Reply #26 on:** March 30, 2015, 09:10:25 pm »

That looks DAMN nice!! I certainly hope they plan on keeping the "Continental" name and not follow suit with their current ridiculous nomenclature.

Snowman · « **Reply #27 on:** March 31, 2015, 07:01:25 am »

Quote from: pi314 on March 30, 2015, 06:01:01 pm

Quote from: Snowman on March 30, 2015, 05:56:01 pm
There is comfort in knowing the accounts at GM will never let this happen.

Yes because GM doesn't own Lincoln, and thank goodness

OliverD · « **Reply #28 on:** March 31, 2015, 08:17:57 am »

Quote from: CanuckS2K on March 30, 2015, 09:10:25 pm

That looks DAMN nice!! I certainly hope they plan on keeping the "Continental" name and not follow suit with their current ridiculous nomenclature.

Agreed. It's a storied name and they'd be dumb not to use it.

If only it had suicide doors...

superukr · « **Reply #29 on:** March 31, 2015, 08:19:01 am »

I want one, but 2-3 yrs old

Noto · « **Reply #30 on:** March 31, 2015, 08:45:23 am »

Quote from: random006 on March 30, 2015, 04:36:40 pm

Very "Bentley-ish" in overall design, at least to me.

Quote from: CanuckS2K on March 30, 2015, 09:10:25 pm

I certainly hope they plan on keeping the "Continental" name

...so, maybe it's the lawyer in me, and I know Lincoln has had a Continental in the past...

...but doesn't Bentley also sell a vehicle called the "Continental"?

I guess the name isn't Trademarked and therefore it simply doesn't matter? Then again, Apple made the iPhone 5S, and then Samsung made the S5. Who cares.

The exterior has a bit of Jaguar and Saab, as stated, but the interior centre stack is pure Chrysler 200.

OliverD · « **Reply #31 on:** March 31, 2015, 08:51:04 am »

Quote from: NoTo on March 31, 2015, 08:45:23 am

Quote from: random006 on March 30, 2015, 04:36:40 pm
Very "Bentley-ish" in overall design, at least to me.
Quote from: CanuckS2K on March 30, 2015, 09:10:25 pm
I certainly hope they plan on keeping the "Continental" name
...so, maybe it's the lawyer in me, and I know Lincoln has had a Continental in the past...

...but doesn't Bentley also sell a vehicle called the "Continental"?

I guess the name isn't Trademarked and therefore it simply doesn't matter? Then again, Apple made the iPhone 5S, and then Samsung made the S5. Who cares.

The exterior has a bit of Jaguar and Saab, as stated, but the interior centre stack is pure Chrysler 200.

The Bentley Continental and Lincoln Continental have coexisted before. Bentley Continental R/T/SC was sold from '93 through '02, which is coincidentally when the last Lincoln Continental was discontinued.

Both companies also used the name in the '50s and '60s.

blotter · « **Reply #32 on:** March 31, 2015, 09:42:03 am »

Quote

I'm digging the interior. The dash and centre stack are cool, I like the return of chrome. The door panels look good too, so do the seats. Just a sniff of retro in there. Nice.

totally agree.
while the exterior does echo some other design elements, it still has a look of it's own.
meanwhile, something about the interior makes it look retro while still looking modern and classy.

Noto · « **Reply #33 on:** March 31, 2015, 10:42:13 am »

Quote from: OliverD on March 31, 2015, 08:51:04 am

Quote from: NoTo on March 31, 2015, 08:45:23 am
...so, maybe it's the lawyer in me, and I know Lincoln has had a Continental in the past...
The Bentley Continental and Lincoln Continental have coexisted before. Bentley Continental R/T/SC was sold from '93 through '02, which is coincidentally when the last Lincoln Continental was discontinued.

Both companies also used the name in the '50s and '60s.

Apparently you missed my point.

I know THAT the name has been used concurrently, but I question the lack of value in having the name Trademarked. More so why does Bentley not have an issue with Lincoln using it?

Northernridge · « **Reply #34 on:** March 31, 2015, 11:16:26 am »

Quote from: NoTo on March 31, 2015, 10:42:13 am

Quote from: OliverD on March 31, 2015, 08:51:04 am
Quote from: NoTo on March 31, 2015, 08:45:23 am
...so, maybe it's the lawyer in me, and I know Lincoln has had a Continental in the past...
The Bentley Continental and Lincoln Continental have coexisted before. Bentley Continental R/T/SC was sold from '93 through '02, which is coincidentally when the last Lincoln Continental was discontinued.

Both companies also used the name in the '50s and '60s.
Apparently you missed my point.

I know THAT the name has been used concurrently, but I question the lack of value in having the name Trademarked. More so why does Bentley not have an issue with Lincoln using it?

How would you know what Bentley does or does not have an issue with...or Ford? There may be a current legal challenge, a previous one or an existing settlement, agreement etc. The lawyer in you would also know that international trademark laws are complex and vary between regions. The Continental moniker has been around for a long time and trademark laws will have evolved since its creation. It's virtually impossible that both companies do not understand their respective trademarks in minute detail and you would know better than me about their enthusiasm for protecting their IP. You also know that "Continental" with not be trademarked in isolation of the entire name and insignia. To which there are other examples in the automotive world where competing brands use similar nomenclature in part of their product names.

I'm just a boneheaded adman and I can conjure up better legal speculation.

Sir Osis of Liver · « **Reply #35 on:** March 31, 2015, 11:23:56 am »

The first Lincoln Continental was introduced in 1939 and was powered by a 4.8L flat head V12.

The Bentley Mark IV on which the Continental R was based was introduced for 1952. Powered by a 4.6L F head inline 6.

To my eye, the 1941 Lincoln pictured looks more modern that the 1952 Bentley.

1952 Bentley Continental R,

Edit, sorted out the images

SaskSpecV · « **Reply #36 on:** March 31, 2015, 11:42:54 am »

I have no real interest in the car per se, but as others have mentioned - damn it's nice to see Lincoln sticking with an ACTUAL name!

It seems very ironic to me that Caddy and Lincoln are advertise about marketing their vehicles to "leaders" and "going your own way" and all this "self-confident American luxury" crap. But it's such a transparent marketing ploy, because the companies themselves are too timid and afraid to buck industry norms and show leadership themselves.

Lincoln/Caddy executive meeting: "All the other luxury car companies have move to alphanumeric names. It helps brand recognition - no one knows what an X6 sDrive 35i is, so the owner just calls it a BMW"

"But American luxury cars have had real names in the past, it's the Germans and Japanese that called their vehicles the ABC123. We've got storied nameplates that date back generations. Sure they sucked recently, but we can turn them around and keep the names"

"Screw that, it'll be too much work. Let's just hire Johan de Nysschen - he's doing such a great job turning around Infiniti..."

Noto · « **Reply #37 on:** March 31, 2015, 11:55:29 am »

Quote from: Northernridge on March 31, 2015, 11:16:26 am

How would you know what Bentley does or does not have an issue with...or Ford? There may be a current legal challenge, a previous one or an existing settlement, agreement etc. The lawyer in you would also know that international trademark laws are complex and vary between regions. The Continental moniker has been around for a long time and trademark laws will have evolved since its creation. It's virtually impossible that both companies do not understand their respective trademarks in minute detail and you would know better than me about their enthusiasm for protecting their IP. You also know that "Continental" with not be trademarked in isolation of the entire name and insignia. To which there are other examples in the automotive world where competing brands use similar nomenclature in part of their product names.

I'm just a boneheaded adman and I can conjure up better legal speculation.

This is not worth the effort bantering. I did not speculate, but pondered the intelligence of reviving that name. BMW and Infiniti fought over the use of "M" - so yes, "Continental" can be trademarked in isolation.

By reviving the car again, it raises another legal battle that could ensue (no pun intended).

Anyhoo, who cares. I was confused when I first read the title, then remembered that both companies have a "Continental".

blotter · « **Reply #38 on:** March 31, 2015, 12:08:15 pm »

Continental Tires.

- just throwing that out there

Ford and Bentley aren't the only ones Continental

Noto · « **Reply #39 on:** March 31, 2015, 12:21:23 pm »

Trademarks must be on similar wares. Tires are not the same thing as automobiles (though the latter employs the former). Breakfast literally has nothing to do with automobiles.

*sigh* this is why I shan't be writing a legal column for any publication.