Topic: The Honda Civic hatch is back

[G.Bombay]

I like it better than the sedan.
Nice to see the ugly chrome bits taken off. too bad they added tacky black bits.
Should look better when the car is black I would think.

[CanuckS2K]

The rear profile reminds me of a CrossTour..........which is definitely NOT a good thing. 

[conwelpic]

The rear profile reminds me of a CrossTour..........which is definitely NOT a good thing.

here you go 

[OliverD]

I think the shape is better than the Crosstour's but the details aren't great. I wonder if non-Sport models will look a bit cleaner.

[EV-Light]

Fantastic design! Looks modern and fun...I can see how the VW fan bois would hate it...the design is opposite to bland and square lol


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[Bubba]

If Honda could make another hatchback this size and still meet crash regs, I'd be first in line.

[lebowski]

Fantastic design! Looks modern and fun...I can see how the VW fan bois would hate it...the design is opposite to bland and square lol


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I agree. Sure, the rear end is a bit overwrought, but it's done in that distinctly Japanese/Manga style that, somehow, still kinda works. (same with the Lexus "Predator" Spindle Grille). If people are really after a blander design, Volkswagen has an excellent hatch they'd like to sell you (albeit with a 5-speed manual.) Anyway  let’s review:

- It's an actual civic hatchback

- it's got a turbo (no needing to wait for VTEC to kick in, yo) 

- it's got a Honda-grade 6-speed manual (woohoo!)

- good quality interior (probably, we haven’t seen it yet of course)

- reliable and dependable

- Cheap to run

- not boring to look at

Seems like a winner to me and I’d strongly consider one. What I’d be most curious about is the overall length of the hatch vs. the sedan - for my needs, i’d want it at least ~176 inches - meaning skis can fit in on the diagonal.

[OliverD]

- good quality interior (probably, we haven’t seen it yet of course)

Sure we have. No reason to think it will be much different from the sedan.

[lebowski]

- good quality interior (probably, we haven’t seen it yet of course)

Sure we have. No reason to think it will be much different from the sedan.

Right! Forgot about that - brain-fart! 

[EV-Light]

If Honda could make another hatchback this size and still meet crash regs, I'd be first in line.

YUCK!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOO please.

[safristi]

Is that the NEW GOLF.....

[SKYMTL]

- It's an actual civic hatchback LIFTBACK

Fixed that for ya.  This isn't a hatchback. 

[SaskSpecV]

- It's an actual civic hatchback LIFTBACK

Fixed that for ya.  This isn't a hatchback.

Agreed.  How do the specs compare with the 1st-gen Mazda6 liftback?  They look to be very close in size.  Except aesthetically, where the 6 has aged very well, this Civic might need to become an acquired taste...

And nothing wrong with a liftback, I'd still take that over a sedan. 

[SKYMTL]

- It's an actual civic hatchback LIFTBACK

Fixed that for ya.  This isn't a hatchback.

Agreed.  How do the specs compare with the 1st-gen Mazda6 liftback?  They look to be very close in size.  Except aesthetically, where the 6 has aged very well, this Civic might need to become an acquired taste...

And nothing wrong with a liftback, I'd still take that over a sedan.

Considering the sedan already looks like a liftback, this should have been a proper hatch IMO. 

[lebowski]

- It's an actual civic hatchback LIFTBACK

Fixed that for ya.  This isn't a hatchback.

So when does a hatchback become a liftback? I've always been unclear on this. I agree the sedan looks like it should've been a liftback from the get-go - too bad American buyers seem to equate "hatchback" with "freedom hater".

[OliverD]

I think that definition is somewhat arbitrary but Wikipedia says the definition of a liftback is "where the rear cargo door is more horizontal than vertical, with a sharply raked or fastback profile." I think that's about right but the term liftback seems to have disappeared at some point.

[Arctic_White]

The rear profile reminds me of a CrossTour..........which is definitely NOT a good thing.

here you go 

The CrossTour looks better than the Civic hatch.  Yikes!

I dislike the design.  Seems too much like Predator vs. Alien. 

[hoodlum]

The rear profile reminds me of a CrossTour..........which is definitely NOT a good thing.

here you go 

Then it would also remind us of a Porsche.  Although I don't think it looks like either.

[conwelpic]

not sure if there is any "fresh" info but this is Honda Canada's press release on August 15th on this model

http://hondanews.ca/en/news/release/AllNew-2017-Honda-Civic-Hatchback-Arrives-This-Fall-in-Canada

[hoodlum]

It looks like the Sport 6MT will get an additional 15 lb/ft of torque over the Sport CVT.

hondanews.com/releases/all-new-2017-honda-civic-hatchback-arrives-this-fall-in-north-america?page=2

"180 horsepower and 162 lb.-ft. of torque in the Sport and the all-new Sport Touring grade with CVT and 180 horsepower and 177 lb.-ft. of torque in the Sport with 6-speed manual."