Topic: First Drive: 2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe

[dirtyjeffer]

The old 2.0L and the new 2.0L engine are almost exactly the same except the upgraded turbo and intercooler.  It was built in partnership with Chrysler and Mitsubishi and I'm sure this engine will be heavily used over the next 10 years, probably with GDI added.

again, almost exactly the same in terms of displacement...while the engine is the same size, i am pretty sure it shares very little with its GEMA roots...Hyundai doesn't use any GEMA engines any longer as Chrysler took control of that plant and uses it themselves now...Hyundai has chosen to invest into R&D and is doing more of their own production now...the new transmissions and engines are part of that investment.

[Mike]

The old 2.0L and the new 2.0L engine are almost exactly the same except the upgraded turbo and intercooler.  It was built in partnership with Chrysler and Mitsubishi and I'm sure this engine will be heavily used over the next 10 years, probably with GDI added.

again, almost exactly the same in terms of displacement...while the engine is the same size, i am pretty sure it shares very little with its GEMA roots...Hyundai doesn't use any GEMA engines any longer as Chrysler took control of that plant and uses it themselves now...Hyundai has chosen to invest into R&D and is doing more of their own production now...the new transmissions and engines are part of that investment.

The Theta engine was conceived from GEMA and the Theta II used in the Sonata/Genesis Coupe is an evolution of that engine.  So you are both technically right.  Hyundai I believe always sourced their Theta engines from their own plants (currently in Alabama I believe)

[ArticSteve]

IMO, two different markets.  By a 2 to 1 margin Genesis coupes go out the door in automatic (engine choice is a matter of "economy").  That's an indicator about the buyer. 

Consequently, it's closer to the Mustang V6.

Miata is in a class all it's own.      

ONLY 2 to 1 for automatics?   That seems low when the normal takeup for autos in NA is near to 9 to 1.
I would have thought that the Genesis coupe would have at least  5 or 6 to 1 for auto.

I rounded it down.  It's approx. 2.5:1    Personally I thought it would be closer to the 370Z which is essentially 1:1 with a slight trend towards the autos.

Similar to the last version of the Tiburon, it turned out that women were more attracted to this car than men so the automatic reigns supreme.  My wife likes this car.  Every time she see's one she asks me "what's that".  Very irritating.     She likes the light green.   

[2JDM]

Interesting thoughts.

You can build a 2013 Gen Coupe on Hyundai Canada's site now.

http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/BuildPrice/step2_trims.aspx?Model=Genesis%20Coupe

Make sure you select the model year on the right.

[ArticSteve]

What's with the colour choice      Definitely a vehicle that you would want to pull out of the States in a year used despite the 6% tariff.

[aaronk]

Interesting thoughts.

You can build a 2013 Gen Coupe on Hyundai Canada's site now.

http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/BuildPrice/step2_trims.aspx?Model=Genesis%20Coupe

Make sure you select the model year on the right.

Wow, they launch their 2013's with 2.9% financing /60 mo.? That's surprising - I know Toyota is about 5%, so is VW. This is kinda off-topic but are VW/Toyota actually making money on that interest rate, or is Hyundai discounting their finance rates on introductory models? I know you can get 2012 Kias for like 0%/72 now, but I'm surprised at that rate for the 2013 GC.

[ArticSteve]

Hyundai/Kia have employed the "%" financing strategy from the beginning.  It's effective in moving the metal.  How they integrate/manage that strategy into their profit structure would be interesting to read about.  Does Korean production subsidize US production?

Toyota Canada is a distributor.  They operate different than the US company and call their own shots so you see a completely different financing strategy from that of the US.  Captive financing is part of their profit structure.

[dirtyjeffer]

Hyundai/Kia have employed the "%" financing strategy from the beginning.  It's effective in moving the metal.  How they integrate/manage that strategy into their profit structure would be interesting to read about.  Does Korean production subsidize US production?

Toyota Canada is a distributor.  They operate different than the US company and call their own shots so you see a completely different financing strategy from that of the US.  Captive financing is part of their profit structure.

yea, i have found that Hyundai/Kia focus more on pricing their cars properly from the get go, and offering decent finance rates...other brands seem to use things like "Family Pricing" and other marketing gimmicks where they lower the prices of their vehicles to where they really should have been priced in the first place in order to move them...of course, they often ding you with a high interest rate when there is cash on the hood too.

Kia/Hyundai seem to better understand "value", not only in terms of equipment offered, but in terms of pricing and finance rates.

[MTD]

Bumping this thread to anyone interested. I recently took delivery of my 13 3.8 V6 6mt GT. Car is awesome so far. Zero complaints.

[aquadorhj]

^ holy siiit. That's awesome.

Make sure you post in show and shine thread!!