Author Topic: Countdown to Nissan's second generation electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is here. (Read 226999 times)

EV Dan · « **Reply #420 on:** December 01, 2014, 08:29:33 pm »

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According to its CEO Carlos Ghosn, Nissan is putting the final touches on batteries that will double the range of its Leaf EV. A release of the technology, which would be a long sought breakthrough, is said to be only a few years away.

In a late night interview at Tokyo’s Business News channel, a relentless host pressed Carlos Ghosn for answers about the future of Nissan’s electric vehicle program. Is Nissan working on new batteries? Ghosn: “Yes.” Can you tell us more? Ghosn: “No.” Will the range double? Ghosn: “Yes.” That means more than 400 km? Ghosn: “Yes.”

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Engineering sources in Japan confirm that battery research has seen intense attention at major OEMs, notably Nissan, but also at Toyota, which in public plays the BEV skeptic. “Commercial applications could be no more than one model cycle away,” said an engineer who is not supposed to talk to me. According to the source, the new battery delivers twice the capacity while weighing – and costing – less than the current shorter range model. In a prototype, Nissan’s Barcelona Technical Centre last year tested a 48 kWh battery, double the capacity of the Leaf’s 24kWh battery.

http://dailykanban.com/2014/12/battery-breakthrough-nissan-poised-take-range-off-table/

Snowman · « **Reply #421 on:** December 01, 2014, 10:31:28 pm »

That means more than 400 km? Ghosn: “Yes"

This I will have to see.

me_2 · « **Reply #422 on:** December 01, 2014, 10:50:34 pm »

Is it me or quite a few extended EVs range have promised lately to come into the next 3 years or so?

EV Dan · « **Reply #423 on:** December 02, 2014, 12:17:24 am »

Quote from: Snowman on December 01, 2014, 10:31:28 pm

That means more than 400 km? Ghosn: “Yes" This I will have to see.

On Japanese test cycle. Although no timeline was mentioned, in context it seems he was talking about the next generation Leaf which is a few years away.

EV Dan · « **Reply #424 on:** December 02, 2014, 12:28:44 am »

Quote from: me_2 on December 01, 2014, 10:50:34 pm

Is it me or quite a few extended EVs range have promised lately to come into the next 3 years or so?

The other one that comes to mind is VW, with even more substantial claims. I posted it somewhere here. I suppose battery technology matures regardless of anyone wishes or hopes. Panasonic, LG and other giants are investing big dough in R&D. So, similarly to H2 vehicles, EV2.0 will appear around the same time and at a similar price. From what I read that price will be similar to the current mass market EVs but the battery capacity will double. Kind of like with hard drives.

Edit: URL
http://www.autos.ca/forum/index.php/topic,89739.0.html

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #425 on:** December 02, 2014, 09:21:07 am »

I'm excited for this.

I could conceivably be looking at an EV in three years time. We'll be looking at either replacing the Altima (with something nicer) or potentially adding a second vehicle to our household. If we add a second vehicle, there is no reason why it couldn't be an EV. Let the improvements come forth.

Sir Osis of Liver · « **Reply #426 on:** December 02, 2014, 09:56:24 am »

Quote from: EV Dan on November 25, 2014, 08:53:07 pm

Old news, but it's news to me so I will share:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/leaf/88344/nissan-leaf-to-get-sharp-new-look-and-range-boost

Why does it have a grill?

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #427 on:** December 02, 2014, 10:12:28 am »

Quote from: Sir Osis of Liver on December 02, 2014, 09:56:24 am

Quote from: EV Dan on November 25, 2014, 08:53:07 pm
Old news, but it's news to me so I will share:
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/nissan/leaf/88344/nissan-leaf-to-get-sharp-new-look-and-range-boost

Why does it have a grill?

Great point. Styling convention, probably. I don't think the original Leaf had a grill, did it?

EV Dan · « **Reply #428 on:** December 02, 2014, 10:12:58 am »

^^^ It doesn't make it look more aerodynamic, does it? Maybe an attempt to make it look more conventional, but anyhow the pic is likely of an early concept. IMO they need to make the Leaf look more sporty and yet stand out from the rest of the lineup, kind of like Toyota made Prius recognizable as an ultimate "planet saving" car.

Great_Big_Abyss · « **Reply #429 on:** December 02, 2014, 10:15:31 am »

They should certainly make it a whole lot more aerodynamic than it currently looks. Adding perforations into the front clip goes against aerodynamics. Ask any high speed racer at Mohave why they're duct taping all the openings on their car.

Guy · « **Reply #430 on:** March 25, 2015, 02:58:54 pm »

Good review of the Leaf in Europe. https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=6V1bJJwJhEg

EV Dan · « **Reply #431 on:** April 28, 2015, 01:30:43 pm »

http://insideevs.com/longer-range-2016-nissan-leaf-coming/

Some exciting rumours and speculations these are but let's face it it's inevitable for mainstream EVs to grow in battery size. The question is when. I think once the cell suppliers are ready that is when Nissan will offer an extended range battery option, for the existing Leaf.

EV Dan · « **Reply #432 on:** May 27, 2015, 12:53:32 pm »

A decent bump in kWh for the current, 1st generation Leaf:
http://insideevs.com/2016-nissan-leaf-get-25-larger-battery/

From the looks of it, since they haven't re-designed the car and it's battery pack dimensions, this 25% increase should come from the new chemistry cells.

Guy · « **Reply #433 on:** May 27, 2015, 04:46:09 pm »

Quote from: EV Dan on May 27, 2015, 12:53:32 pm

A decent bump in kWh for the current, 1st generation Leaf:
http://insideevs.com/2016-nissan-leaf-get-25-larger-battery/

From the looks of it, since they haven't re-designed the car and it's battery pack dimensions, this 25% increase should come from the new chemistry cells.

You beated me to it Dan.

Sounds like a great update to the Leaf until the new gen comes out!

EV Dan · « **Reply #434 on:** May 27, 2015, 09:05:49 pm »

^^^ Sorry. Enjoy a carma point

Guy · « **Reply #435 on:** June 25, 2015, 12:11:48 pm »

Nissan just released a video of a slightly redesigned Leaf with 544 km of autonomy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ofph3CUObAQ&feature=player_embedded

https://transportevolved.com/2015/06/25/video-nissans-mysterious-advanced-rd-electric-vehicle-is-330-mile-prototype-leaf/

EV Dan · « **Reply #436 on:** June 26, 2015, 04:13:09 pm »

^^^
Yep. Bolt or Leaf?; the race to 200 miles on a charge is on. Watch from 39 min mark:
http://insideevs.com/future-nissan-leaf-envisioned-with-338-miles-of-range-video/
Nissan could come out on top in terms of the car dimensions though.

redman · « **Reply #437 on:** June 26, 2015, 04:19:52 pm »

^^
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It appears to be happening, whereby all electric starts to make sense.

EV Dan · « **Reply #438 on:** June 26, 2015, 10:02:49 pm »

Quote from: redman on June 26, 2015, 04:19:52 pm

^^
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It appears to be happening, whereby all electric starts to make sense.

Yes, good meme. 200 mpc is the tipping point IMO, for both, the mass EV adoption and redundancy of the range extender. It would be awesome if the battery is not much heavier than the current one.

rrocket · « **Reply #439 on:** June 28, 2015, 04:17:22 am »

Quote from: EV Dan on June 26, 2015, 10:02:49 pm

Yes, good meme. 200 mpc is the tipping point IMO, for both, the mass EV adoption and redundancy of the range extender. It would be awesome if the battery is not much heavier than the current one.

No. Price is the tipping point. I really appreciate the technology. The price? Not so much.