Topic: First Drive: 2017 Maserati Quattroporte

[davefonz164]

Thats Italian fanboi speak for "so what if it doesn't run, catches on fire and nothing works....look how pretty it is sitting on that tow truck/hoist" 

Oh c'mon...when stuff like that happens, it's because the car has CHARACTER and SOUL 

  Sorry, I'm not fluent in Italian car characteristics

Someone is stuck in the 70s

[Fobroader]

Thats Italian fanboi speak for "so what if it doesn't run, catches on fire and nothing works....look how pretty it is sitting on that tow truck/hoist" 

Oh c'mon...when stuff like that happens, it's because the car has CHARACTER and SOUL 

  Sorry, I'm not fluent in Italian car characteristics

Someone is stuck in the 70s

Hahahahahaha....yeah, because the Italians are almost Lexus-esque when it comes to reliability. Please....

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[rrocket]

Thats Italian fanboi speak for "so what if it doesn't run, catches on fire and nothing works....look how pretty it is sitting on that tow truck/hoist" 

Oh c'mon...when stuff like that happens, it's because the car has CHARACTER and SOUL 

  Sorry, I'm not fluent in Italian car characteristics

Someone is stuck in the 70s

Yes...most Italian car company's build quality....

[davefonz164]

Thats Italian fanboi speak for "so what if it doesn't run, catches on fire and nothing works....look how pretty it is sitting on that tow truck/hoist" 

Oh c'mon...when stuff like that happens, it's because the car has CHARACTER and SOUL 

  Sorry, I'm not fluent in Italian car characteristics

Someone is stuck in the 70s

Hahahahahaha....yeah, because the Italians are almost Lexus-esque when it comes to reliability. Please....

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And I'm guessing such wisdom comes from your various maserati and alfas?

[lebowski]

Hahahahahaha....yeah, because the Italians are almost Lexus-esque when it comes to reliability. Please....

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^ I mean who could've imagined a guy with "Fonz164" in his forum name would be somewhat biased towards Italian cars 

[davefonz164]

Thats Italian fanboi speak for "so what if it doesn't run, catches on fire and nothing works....look how pretty it is sitting on that tow truck/hoist" 

Oh c'mon...when stuff like that happens, it's because the car has CHARACTER and SOUL 

  Sorry, I'm not fluent in Italian car characteristics

Someone is stuck in the 70s

Yes...most Italian car company's build quality....

Said the genius with a PhD in mechanical engineering:)

[Fobroader]

Thats Italian fanboi speak for "so what if it doesn't run, catches on fire and nothing works....look how pretty it is sitting on that tow truck/hoist" 

Oh c'mon...when stuff like that happens, it's because the car has CHARACTER and SOUL 

  Sorry, I'm not fluent in Italian car characteristics

Someone is stuck in the 70s

Hahahahahaha....yeah, because the Italians are almost Lexus-esque when it comes to reliability. Please....

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And I'm guessing such wisdom comes from your various maserati and alfas?

Nope, any reliability survey, car magazines and owners forums....no thank you. Great looking cars, but no.

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[davefonz164]

Hahahahahaha....yeah, because the Italians are almost Lexus-esque when it comes to reliability. Please....

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^ I mean who could've imagined a guy with "Fonz164" in his forum name would be somewhat biased towards Italian cars 

Based on ownership of all major car producing nations

[davefonz164]

Thats Italian fanboi speak for "so what if it doesn't run, catches on fire and nothing works....look how pretty it is sitting on that tow truck/hoist" 

Oh c'mon...when stuff like that happens, it's because the car has CHARACTER and SOUL 

  Sorry, I'm not fluent in Italian car characteristics

Someone is stuck in the 70s

Hahahahahaha....yeah, because the Italians are almost Lexus-esque when it comes to reliability. Please....

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And I'm guessing such wisdom comes from your various maserati and alfas?

Nope, any reliability survey, car magazines and owners forums....no thank you. Great looking cars, but no.

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Then grow some coJones  and try before you speak, clearly you're limited by what others think.....

[lebowski]

^ I mean who could've imagined a guy with "Fonz164" in his forum name would be somewhat biased towards Italian cars 

Based on ownership of all major car producing nations

Sincerely, I didn't follow: you're saying you've tried cars from other countries and you like Italian stuff the best? If so, fair play. We're all allowed our biases. Just own it, dude.

[davefonz164]

^ I mean who could've imagined a guy with "Fonz164" in his forum name would be somewhat biased towards Italian cars 

Based on ownership of all major car producing nations

Sincerely, I didn't follow: you're saying you've tried cars from other countries and you like Italian stuff the best? If so, fair play. We're all allowed our biases. Just own it, dude.

I've owned  Japanese, American, German and Italian cars. They all offer something different.

Once you try a proper Italian car it's hard to go back

[rrocket]

Once you try a proper Italian car it's hard to go back

What's proper?  I don't see any in your sig.....

[davefonz164]

Once you try a proper Italian car it's hard to go back

What's proper?  I don't see any in your sig.....

Alfa Milano, Alfa 164 LS, Auto Bianchi A112 Abarth...

[johngenx]

When I belonged to PCA, many of the members also owned Pasta Rockets - and wow, ownership was difficult and expensive.  A 911 was a veritable Toyota Yaris in comparison in terms of problems.

But, those folks knew that going in.  A "proper" Italian car?  Fast.  Really fooking fast.  Gorgeous.  Really fooking gorgeous.

[rrocket]

Once you try a proper Italian car it's hard to go back

What's proper?  I don't see any in your sig.....

Alfa Milano, Alfa 164 LS, Auto Bianchi A112 Abarth...

Well I'd disagree with the Milano and 164LS.  To me (and you're obviously different) a "proper" italian sports car sets your heart aflutter with it's beautiful styling.  Neither of those will do that...particularly with the Milano looking like a poor cross between an old Jetta and a Saab 9000.

The Abarths styling is dull too.  But (to me), it's cool in the same way that an old Datsun 510 is cool.  Not stylish.  But cool...and fun to drive as most old go-kart sized cars are.

But hey...we're all glad you enjoy driving your italian iron.  Different strokes for different folks.....

And maybe put some pics of your cars in Show and Shine if you haven't done so already.  Plenty of people here (me included) would like to see them even if they aren't our cup of tea.

[davefonz164]

When I belonged to PCA, many of the members also owned Pasta Rockets - and wow, ownership was difficult and expensive.  A 911 was a veritable Toyota Yaris in comparison in terms of problems.

But, those folks knew that going in.  A "proper" Italian car?  Fast.  Really fooking fast.  Gorgeous.  Really fooking gorgeous.

Some of the most memorable and epic pasta rockets are also maintenance intensive no doubt, 355 comes to mind and some other exotics.....while some othersort weren't so bad

[rrocket]

When I belonged to PCA, many of the members also owned Pasta Rockets - and wow, ownership was difficult and expensive.  A 911 was a veritable Toyota Yaris in comparison in terms of problems.

But, those folks knew that going in.  A "proper" Italian car?  Fast.  Really fooking fast.  Gorgeous.  Really fooking gorgeous.

Some of the most memorable and epic pasta rockets are also maintenance intensive no doubt, 355 comes to mind and some other exotics.....while some othersort weren't so bad

The guys I used to roll with all owned expensive cars.  Ferraris, R8s, NSX, SL65 AMG, modded 911 TTs etc.  I was the "poor" guy with my Supra.

Without question, the cars that were in the shop the most often were the Ferraris.  It wasn't even close.  And the worst offender in the group of these unreliable supercars was a 550 Maranello.  It was ALWAYS in the shop.  And not for a week...but WEEKS.  And parts always seemed to be....impossible to get.

[davefonz164]

Once you try a proper Italian car it's hard to go back

What's proper?  I don't see any in your sig.....

Alfa Milano, Alfa 164 LS, Auto Bianchi A112 Abarth...

Well I'd disagree with the Milano and 164LS.  To me (and you're obviously different) a "proper" italian sports car sets your heart aflutter with it's beautiful styling.  Neither of those will do that...particularly with the Milano looking like a poor cross between an old Jetta and a Saab 9000.

The Abarths styling is dull too.  But (to me), it's cool in the same way that an old Datsun 510 is cool.  Not stylish.  But cool...and fun to drive as most old go-kart sized cars are.

But hey...we're all glad you enjoy driving your italian iron.  Different strokes for different folks.....

And maybe put some pics of your cars in Show and Shine if you haven't done so already.  Plenty of people here (me included) would like to see them even if they aren't our cup of tea.

Then Milanos beauty wasn't it's styling but it's epic engine and handling it also raced well and was identical mechanically to the successful gtvv6 and sz.

Theven I64 had that wonderful busso and Pininfarina lineso....but I can understand your preference for a camry or maxima.....different strokes

[rrocket]

Then Milanos beauty wasn't it's styling but it's epicertainly engine and handling it also raced well and was identical mechanically to the successful gtvv6 and sz.

Theven I64 had that wonderful busso and Pininfarina lineso....but I can understand your preference for a camry or maxima.....different strokes

The sad part is, a modern Camry would likely blow those cars into the weeds.  It would be so far ahead after the 1st straight, none of those cars would catch it on a track.   


But again...to me...a "proper" Italian cars has ALL the elements.  Lovely powerplant and handling AND lust worthy good looks.  There's a reason most people never had posters of Milano's and 164s on their wall...instead having 308s and Countachs and Daytonas along with 911/930s.

[davefonz164]

When I belonged to PCA, many of the members also owned Pasta Rockets - and wow, ownership was difficult and expensive.  A 911 was a veritable Toyota Yaris in comparison in terms of problems.

But, those folks knew that going in.  A "proper" Italian car?  Fast.  Really fooking fast.  Gorgeous.  Really fooking gorgeous.

Some of the most memorable and epic pasta rockets are also maintenance intensive no doubt, 355 comes to mind and some other exotics.....while some othersort weren't so bad

The guys I used to roll with all owned expensive cars.  Ferraris, R8s, NSX, SL65 AMG, modded 911 TTs etc.  I was the "poor" guy with my Supra.

Without question, the cars that were in the shop the most often were the Ferraris.  It wasn't even close.  And the worst offender in the group of these unreliable supercars was a 550 Maranello.  It was ALWAYS in the shop.  And not for a week...but WEEKS.  And parts always seemed to be....impossible to get.

Nobody can touch Toyota and Honda for low maintenance high performance sports cars.

HaVing been close to many Ferrari owners and other pasta rockets ...their dependability was hugely proportional to the way they were driven or maintained. The Supra or NSX were in a different league when it came to cost of ownership, but ahhh the sound and drive of those 355...

Things have changed dramatically.....Ferrari or maserati  no longer have belt driven engines and Ferrari offers a 7 year cpo program with maintenence  included..

Go figure