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Re: Countdown to Nissan's SECOND electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #520 on: June 20, 2016, 10:21:55 pm »
^^^^Love the concept.  Too bad it will be vanilla when it reaches production.
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Re: Countdown to Nissan's SECOND electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #521 on: June 20, 2016, 10:28:21 pm »
^^^^Love the concept.  Too bad it will be vanilla when it reaches production.

I predict it will not be too far off the IDS concept. If they could have the current Murano come to production in the crazy shape that it did, there is no reason they won't do the same on the EV front.
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Re: Countdown to Nissan's SECOND electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #522 on: June 20, 2016, 10:30:00 pm »
^^^^Love the concept.  Too bad it will be vanilla when it reaches production.

I predict it will not be too far off the IDS concept. If they could have the current Murano come to production in the crazy shape that it did, there is no reason they won't do the same on the EV front.

It will have the grille (new corporate face).  That's about it.

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Re: Countdown to Nissan's second electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #523 on: June 20, 2016, 10:55:42 pm »



If the trend repeats with IDS, the Leaf will be all right.

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Re: Countdown to Nissan's second electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #524 on: June 21, 2016, 10:45:17 pm »
Could be my next EV, the Bolt seems a bit small and I did not put a deposit on a Tesla 3...

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Re: Countdown to Nissan's second electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #525 on: June 21, 2016, 10:56:14 pm »
Definitely a car to consider, if only they matched the Bolt's power and acceleration.

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Re: Countdown to Nissan's second electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #526 on: June 21, 2016, 11:00:19 pm »
Could be my next EV, the Bolt seems a bit small and I did not put a deposit on a Tesla 3...

Didn't feel like being a sucker, eh?   :rofl:

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Re: Countdown to Nissan's second electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #528 on: June 24, 2016, 02:30:04 am »
I did not put a deposit on a Tesla 3.[/b]..
Didn't feel like being a sucker, eh?   :rofl:

Tell you what.   Let's meet up when I get my Model 3 AWD Performance and we'll see if a 911 can hang with it... 8) ;D

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While it is confirmed the 2018 redesigned Leaf will get a 60 Kw-h battery good for 350 km, there are strong rumors the 2017 will have a 40 Kw-h battery good for 235 km. (Up from 30 kw-h and 176 km for the 2016)

The front end of the 2017 Leaf would be redesigned too, with the look of the current Murano.

I read that on the Internet so it must be true!😉

« Last Edit: July 11, 2016, 06:50:55 pm by Guy »

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I read that on the Internet so it must be true!😉

You shouldn't believe it or even better, you shouldn't read them at all  :rofl2:
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Ghosn did say that the battery size will increase gradually. 40kWh model will gather dust if Bolt is on sale at the same time, unless they can make it 10 grand cheaper.

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I think the rumour is, if true, about a 40kWh battery going into the current gen1 Leaf. It technically may be possible with further improved cell chemistry (queue in Saffy here)  ;)

https://cleantechnica.com/2016/07/16/140-miles-nissan-leaf-40-kwh-coming-year-rumor/
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Re: Countdown to Nissan's second electric car. The 200 mile LEAF is near.
« Reply #533 on: July 28, 2016, 03:46:08 pm »
I did not put a deposit on a Tesla 3.[/b]..
Didn't feel like being a sucker, eh?   :rofl:

Tell you what.   Let's meet up when I get my Model 3 AWD Performance and we'll see if a 911 can hang with it... 8) ;D

Really?  What is the Tesla's lap time around the Nürburgring?   

Or, do you only care about the first 3 seconds of a race?
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For where I drive, and the roads here in Ontario, a Model 3 with ludicrous will pretty much dominate.  But yeah, if you're going to Germany, the only way to drive on the Green Hell is in a Porsche, which was on my bucket list, until I converted to all electric cars.  Now, I don't see the point in gas cars, and that's from an "A" type car guy that went through three sets of tires on a Z28 in 1.5 years...  EV's have made going back to gas cars a non-starter.

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A 200 year LEAF drought is nearer........................... :run:   why doesn`t Wynne offer rebates to season ticket holders ???
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December 18, 2016 2:15 am JST
Nissan eyes mass-producing $17,000 electric car

Big savings seen by sharing platform with Renault, Mitsubishi Motors



TOKYO -- Nissan Motor will share a common electric vehicle platform with its partners Renault and Mitsubishi Motors, aiming to lower prices by as much as 20%, sources said.

The automakers' common electric vehicle strategy comes as Germany's Volkswagen, Japan's Toyota Motor and other automakers are refocusing their efforts on electric vehicles to combat stricter environmental regulations being introduced around the world.

By using a common platform, Nissan hopes to come out with a plug-in priced at about 2 million yen ($17,000), around 20% lower than today's starting price.

That would make an electric Nissan as cheap as the company's gasoline counterparts, something Nissan hopes will set it apart from rival auto groups.

Nissan beat other major automakers to mass-producing electric cars when it introduced the Leaf in December 2010. Renault, Nissan's French parent, followed with the Zoe in 2012. Combined, the two companies hold the largest share of the global electric car market, having sold 370,000 units so far.

But the two have developed and designed their respective electric cars separately and have not taken advantage of any synergies, such as joint purchases.

The Leaf currently starts at about 2.8 million yen, higher than similar classes of gasoline-powered cars.

Sales have recently slowed.

Under the new strategy, Renault and Mitsubishi, new to the Nissan alliance, in 2018 will no longer develop their own electric car platforms and instead exclusively use the Leaf platform.

The companies also plan to share other parts in their respective electric vehicles, including batteries, which represent about 40% of the overall weight of an electric car, motors and inverters so that the companies can lower costs by making joint purchases from common suppliers.

Big savings seen by sharing platform with Renault, Mitsubishi Motors

While they will use the same platforms, Renault, Nissan and Mitsubishi Motors will come up with their own designs and do their own branding.

Nissan came to Mitsubishi Motors' rescue earlier this year after Mitsubishi was caught overstating the fuel efficiency of some of its cars.

Meanwhile, Volkswagen, aiming to recover from the aftermath of a false emissions scandal of its own, has set a target to introduce more than 30 electric models by 2025 and raise its share in the global plug-in market to 20% to 25% in terms of units.

The automaker is developing a platform dedicated to electric vehicles and hopes to begin selling one in 2020 at the same price level of its mainstay Golf hatchback.

Toyota in December set up an electric vehicle planning department. Denso, a parts maker, and other Toyota group companies will dispatch personnel. Toyota's strategy is the same as that of the Renault-Nissan-Mitsubishi Motors triumvirate -- lower manufacturing costs by supplying key components to other group automakers.

(Nikkei)

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i wish the car companies would build a reasonably sized full EV. like the size of a a4 allroad.   bolt is too small!, leaf is too small!!  i3 is, you guessed it, tooooooooo smallllllll!!!

I think they (mainstream EV makers) will have to come up with something bigger within 2 years in order to compete with the Model 3.
The challenge here is to keep the car's weight in check or else add several kWh to the battery capacity, which is costly. Now that the desirable 200 mile range is achieved as seen in the Bolt, next step might be adding desirable size and lightness. It'd be easier to use a midsize family sedan platform for its aerodynamic advantage over a comparable CUV.
FWIW BMW did an excellent job with their i3 in terms of using composites and aluminum.

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The article in yesterdays Toronto Star says a lot about EV usage. Written by the guy who races Targa Minis in Newfoundland Jim Kenzy (I think).
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