Topic: Test Drive: 2016 Nissan Titan XD

[Autos_Editor]

Titan XD impresses with refined highway ride and relatively excellent fuel consumption.
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[greengs]

In before people complain 16.3L/100kms is horrible.  My Tundra does better! 16.2/100kms lifetime 

[wing]

That's pretty bad.   I wrote my review last night and actually thought this was mine when I woke up haha.

But I averaged better but not much.   But it's a big truck...

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[Ex-airbalancer]

That is really bad if you are carrying air 

I usually run about 15 L/ 100 km , with a fully load box with a cap and ladders on top with 5.3 l engine

[Fobroader]

Thats horrible mileage for a diesel. All my friends with 3/4 and 1 ton diesels see better mileage than that. Sorry, pricing wise, why would I get this over a nice Duramax or Powerstroke??

[agroal]

I'll never understand the mindset: "any truck-guy need to pilot something big and tough and imposing." Or the desire to hear “Oh my God, it’s so big!!” I can understand buying one because of a need to tow and haul. But most often these tanks carry only a driver and a bed full of air. I'm about average size. I don't need to tow. I haul anything that a midsize truck can carry in the bed. Hence I'm perfectly at peace driving a 2011 Tacoma 4 cyl.  BTW: Ram called Nissan. They want their interior design back. 

[Danno001]

I'll never understand the mindset: "any truck-guy need to pilot something big and tough and imposing." Or the desire to hear “Oh my God, it’s so big!!” I can understand buying one because of a need to tow and haul. But most often these tanks carry only a driver and a bed full of air.

Simplest answer is : Because they can.

And I find the driver's of these p$nis substitutes are the biggest jerks when driving in town. Tailgate, make a left in front of you entering the roadway, cause they are way way bigger. Yes, my home town is same as Pritch.

[micha]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

[Fobroader]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

And because of that new fangled diesel engine it will cost 4-5X as much to repair......yeah...no. If you want a diesel 3/4 ton, get a proper one, Duramax or Powerstroke. You want a half ton, GM, Ford or Toyota will sell you a very decent one.

[MR2Pritch]

Folks

Fuel mileage is HIGHLY subject to a HUGE number of variables. Who is driving? Where? When? With what on board? Is it hot or cold? Are you in a hilly locale? Doing more highway than city? And so on.

As the review says, your results will vary. For where, and how I drive, the figure is close to any number of gas-powered half-ton pickups that don't pack nearly as much torque.

[MR2Pritch]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

And because of that new fangled diesel engine it will cost 4-5X as much to repair......yeah...no. If you want a diesel 3/4 ton, get a proper one, Duramax or Powerstroke. You want a half ton, GM, Ford or Toyota will sell you a very decent one.

Is it the Duramax or Powerstroke that requires a pricey, cab-off job to repair bad head studs and gaskets? I can't remember.

[dirtyjeffer]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

Silverado with V8 and "Max Towing Package" also can tow 12000 lbs...while it doesn't have as much torque as the Cummins diesel, like Fob said, it will be much less expensive to fix should any issues arise (the GM V8 engines are pretty bullet proof though)...you can get a nicely equipped mid trim model for about $45k...sure, not as fully loaded as the tester, but it's $30k cheaper...throw another $10 in options if you want the toys and you're still way under in price.

i think this is a case of "neat idea" (bigger than 1/2 ton, but smaller than 3/4 ton), but it might be the right vehicle for a buyer who doesn't really exist (at least in terms of enough numbers to warranty a business case for this product).

[Fobroader]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

And because of that new fangled diesel engine it will cost 4-5X as much to repair......yeah...no. If you want a diesel 3/4 ton, get a proper one, Duramax or Powerstroke. You want a half ton, GM, Ford or Toyota will sell you a very decent one.

Is it the Duramax or Powerstroke that requires a pricey, cab-off job to repair bad head studs and gaskets? I can't remember.

The 6L and 6.4L V8 PSD used to have this issue, but with the introduction of the Scorpion 6.7L V8 PSD in 2011, no such issues any more.

[revalations]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

And because of that new fangled diesel engine it will cost 4-5X as much to repair......yeah...no. If you want a diesel 3/4 ton, get a proper one, Duramax or Powerstroke. You want a half ton, GM, Ford or Toyota will sell you a very decent one.

Is it the Duramax or Powerstroke that requires a pricey, cab-off job to repair bad head studs and gaskets? I can't remember.

The 6L and 6.4L V8 PSD used to have this issue, but with the introduction of the Scorpion 6.7L V8 PSD in 2011, no such issues any more.

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The 6.7 has been having issues too......no HG issues but quite a few other problems. Ford just can't seem to win with diesels.

If I were in the market it would be Duramax or Cummins.

[Fobroader]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

And because of that new fangled diesel engine it will cost 4-5X as much to repair......yeah...no. If you want a diesel 3/4 ton, get a proper one, Duramax or Powerstroke. You want a half ton, GM, Ford or Toyota will sell you a very decent one.

Is it the Duramax or Powerstroke that requires a pricey, cab-off job to repair bad head studs and gaskets? I can't remember.

The 6L and 6.4L V8 PSD used to have this issue, but with the introduction of the Scorpion 6.7L V8 PSD in 2011, no such issues any more.

\

The 6.7 has been having issues too......no HG issues but quite a few other problems. Ford just can't seem to win with diesels.

If I were in the market it would be Duramax or Cummins.

I would save myself the $60k, buy a 6L Ford, do the $5k worth of "bulletproofing" it needs and have a nice truck for about $10k....but thats not fair. If I was buying new, Duramax for the win.

[greengs]

Tow rating is 12000lbs. What's the max tow of current F150/Silverado 1500? I bet it's close. Payload is similar to half tons as well, if I recall correctly... It weighs as much as a 3/4 ton diesel truck, it costs as much too, but doesn't have the capabilities.. I just can't think of a reason to buy one.

Silverado with V8 and "Max Towing Package" also can tow 12000 lbs...while it doesn't have as much torque as the Cummins diesel, like Fob said, it will be much less expensive to fix should any issues arise (the GM V8 engines are pretty bullet proof though)...you can get a nicely equipped mid trim model for about $45k...sure, not as fully loaded as the tester, but it's $30k cheaper...throw another $10 in options if you want the toys and you're still way under in price.

i think this is a case of "neat idea" (bigger than 1/2 ton, but smaller than 3/4 ton), but it might be the right vehicle for a buyer who doesn't really exist (at least in terms of enough numbers to warranty a business case for this product).

12,000 lbs is for a Regular Cab rating.  A crew cab with max trailer is rated at 10,800 lbs. I'm talking 5.3L trucks.  To step up to a 6.2L you still have to get one of the higher trim trucks. And even then if you're towing anything near 10,000 lbs consistently, you should really look at something better than a 1/2 t truck.  Domestics have a huge selection of rear ends and configurations.  They market the biggest number but in a configuration you want the specs may be different.

[tooscoops]

there is no denying that in similar configurations, this truck can pull, hold and do more than a 150(0)... no point arguing it, because you would have to take from one area (cab size, options, etc) to get the other areas to a competitive number...

BUT... i still don't see the point. this is a sharp looking truck. and list price is nearly identical to a 1500 ram crew 4x4 laramie limited. (0% though, 9k on the hood, plus discounts for ram). it will all come down to the dollars... if there is no incentive money on this truck, i think it will fail.

[SaskSpecV]

it will all come down to the dollars... if there is no incentive money on this truck, i think it will fail.

There is a $5K cash discount on the XD already, according to the Nissan website (for the 5.6L gas XD version at least, not sure about the diesel).

Man I wish the truck MNFRs would finally start aligning their MSRPs closer to actual selling prices!

[tooscoops]

i haven't paid attention enough, even though i read all the articles! i had thought all XD's were diesel... whoops.


just for fun, i priced out a Laramie 2500 Crew Cab 6.7 Cummins with a few toys to make it similarly loaded up (ram box, sunroof, nav, etc.) Lists out at 85k... "free diesel" on now and a 1500 rebate for truck owners gets that down to just over 74k, and believe me, i would LOVE to sell it at that price (in other words, for you fine people, expect 5k off that)...

i know it's the new guy, so it should demand a bit of a price hike just for that... but tough considering it isn't building off a great history on the nameplate.

[Fobroader]

They cannot expect to enter the market with an unproven product, both engine and truck, and charge as much as a proven Duramax, Cummins or PSD 3/4 or 1 ton truck.