Topic: 2015 Ford Mustang Canada build and price FINALLY up

[Snowman]

Just a flash would be fine.     I'm easily pleased.

I'm not driving all the way down there for just a facking flash. I will decide in 5 months....suffer 

[rrocket]

I will decide in 5 months....suffer 

You're a cruel man...

[OliverD]

I think it's important to note that Ford Canada now offers the V8 in a non-premium trim, as they have always done in the U.S. market.

2014 pricing:

V6 $24,499
V6 Premium $27,499
V8 $40,499

2015:

V6 $24,999
EB $27,999
EB Premium $33,499
V8 $36,999
V8 Premium $42,499

Bad news for someone who wants a nicely equipped Mustang that isn't a V8 since an EB Premium is $6k more than the old V6 Premium. On the other hand, the V8 starts at $3500 less but presumably has much less equipment now.

I'd go with a V8 Premium in Guard with the Performance Package, Recaros, and nav.

[neil]

Why is this in General Car Talk? its all about buying.

I had thought I started it there.....  Oh yep I did.  ;)d

[Niklasky]

How come they don't offer the V6 in premium trim anymore ? Clearly they want to push the EB more, and maybe sell the V6 mostly to rental companies ?

[Sir Osis of Liver]

How come they don't offer the V6 in premium trim anymore ? Clearly they want to push the EB more, and maybe sell the V6 mostly to rental companies ?

Exactly. Also, the Ecoboost gets better EPA fuel economy numbers. That helps to balance out the fuel consumption of the V8 and helps them to avoid CAFE penalties.

[Niklasky]

Regardless of the horsepower and performance, I'm not sure how I feel about a 4 cylinder Mustang. It kinda goes against the whole muscle car feel... especially with the fake engine noise...

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Once again:



The Mustang isn't a muscle car except for very specific versions, like the Super Cobra Jets and possibly GT500s.

[Niklasky]

Ok, let's not get hung up on semantics. 4 cylinders on a mustang or a pony car is kind of lame. I mean I know it is more fuel efficient, has the same power as the V6, if not more, etc. But I guess I never pictured a mustang with 4 cylinder in my mind...

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Regardless of the facts/opinions you present, people still view the Mustang as a muscle car.

It's ok. I'm a natural pedant with time on my hands at the moment. 

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Ok, let's not get hung up on semantics. 4 cylinders on a mustang or a pony car is kind of lame. I mean I know it is more fuel efficient, has the same power as the V6, if not more, etc. But I guess I never pictured a mustang with 4 cylinder in my mind...

To be fair, it has 310hp, roughly the output of the last 4.6L V8s used in 2010 but with a better torque curve.

And there is precedent:

[OliverD]

Ok, let's not get hung up on semantics. 4 cylinders on a mustang or a pony car is kind of lame. I mean I know it is more fuel efficient, has the same power as the V6, if not more, etc. But I guess I never pictured a mustang with 4 cylinder in my mind...

What about these?

[Sir Osis of Liver]

^ 85hp of fightin' fury!

[Snowman]

Once again:



The Mustang isn't a muscle car except for very specific versions, like the Super Cobra Jets and possibly GT500s.

  says who? Who is they?

[DriverJeff]

Just a flash would be fine.     I'm easily pleased.

I'm not driving all the way down there for just a facking flash. I will decide in 5 months....suffer 

Wuss.

Just get rid of that old Beetle and get the car you know you really want.

991 Turbo S

[Fobroader]

Ok, let's not get hung up on semantics. 4 cylinders on a mustang or a pony car is kind of lame. I mean I know it is more fuel efficient, has the same power as the V6, if not more, etc. But I guess I never pictured a mustang with 4 cylinder in my mind...

What about these?

You live next door to Fob!?    Cool!   

Oy!!! I have the mighty 150hp V6.......but in all seriousness, a stock, Fox coupe.....Id take it.

Sent from my Galaxy S3

[Sir Osis of Liver]

Once again:



The Mustang isn't a muscle car except for very specific versions, like the Super Cobra Jets and possibly GT500s.

  says who? Who is they?

Muscle car is a term used to refer to a variety of high-performance automobiles.[1] The Merriam-Webster dictionary defines muscle cars as "any of a group of American-made 2-door sports coupes with powerful engines designed for high-performance driving."[2] A large V8 engine is fitted in a 2-door, rear wheel drive, family-style mid-size or full-size car designed for four or more passengers. Sold at an affordable price, muscle cars are intended for mainly street use and occasional drag racing.[3][4][5][6] They are distinct from two-seat sports cars and expensive 2+2 GTs intended for high-speed touring and road racing. Developed simultaneously in their own markets, muscle cars also emerged from manufacturers in Australia, South Africa, the United Kingdom, and elsewhere.

According to Muscle Cars, a book written by Peter Henshaw, a "muscle car" is "exactly what the name implies. It is a product of the American car industry adhering to the hot rodder's philosophy of taking a small car and putting a large-displacement engine in it. The Muscle Car is Charles Atlas kicking sand in the face of the 98 horsepower weakling."[7] Henshaw further asserts that the muscle car was designed for straight-line speed, and did not have the "sophisticated chassis", "engineering integrity", or "lithe appearance" of European high-performance cars.[7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_car#Definition

Motor Trend identified the following models as "musclecars" in 1965:
1962–1965 Dodge Dart / Plymouth Fury 413/426 Max Wedge/426 Hemi
1964–1965 Ford Thunderbolt 427
1965–1969 Buick Skylark Gran Sport
1965–1970 Dodge Coronet/Plymouth Belvedere 426-S
1965 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu SS
1965–1967 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442
Road & Track identified the following models as "musclecars" in 1965:
1964–1965 Pontiac Tempest Le Mans/GTO
1965–1975 Buick Riviera Gran Sport
1965–1969 Buick Skylark Gran Sport
1965–1970 Dodge Coronet/Plymouth Belvedere 426-S
1965 Chevrolet Chevelle Malibu SS
1965–1967 Oldsmobile Cutlass 442

Car and Driver also created a list of the 10 Best muscle cars for its January 1990 issue. The magazine focused on the engines and included:
1966–1967 Plymouth/Dodge intermediates with 426 Hemi
1968–1969 Plymouth/Dodge intermediates with 426 Hemi
1970–1971 Plymouth/Dodge intermediates with 426 Hemi
1966–1967 Chevy II SS327
1966–1969 Chevrolet Chevelle SS396
1968–1969 Chevy II Nova SS396
1969 Ford Torino Cobra 428
1969 Plymouth Road Runner/Dodge Super Bee 440 Six Pack
1970 Chevrolet Chevelle SS454
1969 Pontiac GTO
1984–1987 Buick Grand National
1983–1987 Chevrolet Monte Carlo SS