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Long-Term Test Uodate 1: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« on: November 09, 2012, 06:05:49 am »
Mike Schlee updates us after a month with the Subaru XV Crosstrek.

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2012, 07:16:36 am »
4 stories about Subaru same day
Looks like it back to payola from Subaru ,
 like 5-6 years ago  :rofl2:

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2012, 07:32:54 am »
Am glad this vehicle is for the long term test drive.......I really, REALLY want to love this cuv. It has the looks (like the orange), function but that power (or lack of) and cvt.....time WILL tell.   ;)
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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2012, 07:41:59 am »
Am glad this vehicle is for the long term test drive.......I really, REALLY want to love this cuv. It has the looks (like the orange), function but that power (or lack of) and cvt.....time WILL tell.   ;)

Yup, power has been the biggest issue so far.  Great in the city actually, but lacking on the highway.

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2012, 07:42:15 am »
4 stories about Subaru same day
Looks like it back to payola from Subaru ,
 like 5-6 years ago  :rofl2:

I just want to make sure they see it is published ;D

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2012, 08:56:25 am »
I'm all for more Subaru articles! ;D
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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2012, 09:36:30 am »
   The previous 'black one' issues that registered with me were ...noise...power (or lack of it)...slow shifting. Did I mention noise.
I like this vehicle with it's bit more ground clearance....hmm. don't know why on that one...looks more purposeful I guess. The power aspect needs to address what is actually required in a vehicle of this type in ordinary everyday usage. Enough to enter the highway traffic safely, certainly. Also to hold a highway speed limit + ticket margin without the feeling of engine strain when loaded, yeah. A quiet highway ride is important to me though.
   I look forward to reading the accounts of your experiences over the coming months about the latest generation of the offspring of the union between the Jowett Javelin and Ferguson.
   

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2012, 10:24:23 am »
Mike, not to pi$$ off your "new Subaru overlords" too much...

But as you've driven both the Impreza hatch, and now the long-term XV, can you please compare/contrast them in detail in future posts?  I just don't see the point of the XV, other than the increased ground clearance.  Less cargo space, more weight, more awkward looking (at least to these eyes), higher price.  Is there a significant reason to choose the XV over the Impreza that I'm missing?

If Subaru can hold the line on the 2014 Forester pricing (granted, that's a BIG if), I can't see much rationale for the XV in Subaru's lineup.

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2012, 10:37:17 am »
Mike, not to pi$$ off your "new Subaru overlords" too much...

But as you've driven both the Impreza hatch, and now the long-term XV, can you please compare/contrast them in detail in future posts?  I just don't see the point of the XV, other than the increased ground clearance.  Less cargo space, more weight, more awkward looking (at least to these eyes), higher price.  Is there a significant reason to choose the XV over the Impreza that I'm missing?

If Subaru can hold the line on the 2014 Forester pricing (granted, that's a BIG if), I can't see much rationale for the XV in Subaru's lineup.

Driving I find the XV is easier to drive, mainly due to the higher ride height.  Handling is slightly worse, but better than you'd think.

Price wise, the XV is actually $300 chaeper than the Impreza 5-Door Sport; the model you need to trim up to get the same equipment as a base XV (the Touring.)

The differences between the two are - the Impreza gets a sunroof, the XV is rated to tow.

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2012, 10:42:56 am »
This Subaru XV opens new doors for the automaker here in North America - this is the direction of "normal" gas mileage, comparing with competition. Overseas Subi exist as such and the sacrifices are big - from missing AWD to diesel and CVTs. The best in the class CR-V is underpowered, the one of the most fuel efficient Rogue is with CVT, Hyundai/Kia are witht DI engines and all of them are mostly sold as FWD. Nothing wrong with this Subaru IMO, just needs to reeducate/readapt North American customers...which is a tough task ahead!

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2012, 10:52:52 am »
Hmmm....when I look at those rims an old childhood tune comes to mind: "Flintstones, meet the Flintstones...". 

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #11 on: November 09, 2012, 11:50:26 am »
Is this a new trend here at autos.ca not to mention any fuel consumption ratings either from real world use during review or from the governmental agencies? Same deal on todays other review of the Infinity 37X coupe  ???
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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #12 on: November 09, 2012, 11:56:12 am »
Is this a new trend here at autos.ca not to mention any fuel consumption ratings either from real world use during review or from the governmental agencies? Same deal on todays other review of the Infinity 37X coupe  ???

There's been no review of it yet.  I just got it ;)

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #13 on: November 09, 2012, 05:10:28 pm »
There are a few orange ones around town. I really like the look.

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #14 on: November 09, 2012, 05:37:25 pm »
A quick comment on the pricing:

Pricing: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
Base Price: $24,495
Options: None
Freight & PDI: $1,695
A/C Tax: $100
Price as tested: $26,290

The price you mention in the article is for XV Touring with manual transmission.
MSRP for the CVT version is $25,795 plus freight, according to the Subaru Canada web site

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2012, 05:45:11 pm »
There are a few orange ones around town. I really like the look.

Agreed. I was at the Subau dealer today and it looks really sharp in black and orange. Seriously, if you could get this thing with a bit better interior it would make a wonderful little vehicle. Still, very nice and I think there's a spot for it in the market.

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2012, 06:23:51 pm »
No appeal to me at all, but I think it will sell.  I'd either just get the Impreza, or move to the greater cargo space of the Forester.
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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #17 on: November 09, 2012, 06:54:57 pm »
A quick comment on the pricing:

Pricing: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
Base Price: $24,495
Options: None
Freight & PDI: $1,695
A/C Tax: $100
Price as tested: $26,290

The price you mention in the article is for XV Touring with manual transmission.
MSRP for the CVT version is $25,795 plus freight, according to the Subaru Canada web site


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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2012, 07:11:54 pm »
Last time I was at the dealer, (groping a BRZ) freight and PDI had grown to $2295.  That makes their price $26,890 with A/C tax and no sales taxes.

At $24,xxx, not bad.  At $27K, no deal.  "It's only another $2300..."  Sure.

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Re: Long-Term Arrival: 2013 Subaru XV Crosstrek Touring
« Reply #19 on: November 09, 2012, 10:01:05 pm »
Just because I have OCPD, Blizzak doesn't have a 'c' in it (Blizzack).