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Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« on: October 26, 2012, 06:04:38 am »


Mike Schlee seems convinced that Sailun Tire intends to make a splash in the value-based tire market.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #1 on: October 26, 2012, 09:43:36 am »
I wonder if they got the tire.technologies.from official cooperations and joint venture with big name companies or stste sponsored espionage.    Either is cool if we get good tires for cheap. ;)

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #2 on: October 26, 2012, 09:47:17 am »
The partnered in Canada with heavy machinery tire manufacurer 'Dynamic'

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #3 on: October 26, 2012, 10:02:32 am »
To Mike Schlee:

Mike, would you be able to tell us when and where these tires will be sold?  Any idea?  Or is it still too soon to tell.

Thanks.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #4 on: October 26, 2012, 10:05:40 am »
Until they have more experience and more customer reviews from long term users, I will stick to the brands I know ad pay the extra $$.  Whats a few hundred dollars compared to your safety and that of you family?


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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2012, 10:24:08 am »
My biggest worry, Buffalo Narrows, Northern Saskatchewan, 9PM on a Saturday, your Sailun has just shredded itself......whats the chance that Murph the town mechanic/surgeon is going to have a set of Sailuns in the back of his shop??? I just dont like these Wal mart type of tires because of their lack of popularity. Also, Im with JJ72, Ill pay a little more for the name brand tires, no sense in risking my families safety for a few dollars.
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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2012, 10:30:23 am »
It's my only actual contact with the road, I'd rather not cheap out on it.
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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2012, 10:40:48 am »
I wonder if they got the tire.technologies.from official cooperations and joint venture with big name companies or stste sponsored espionage.    Either is cool if we get good tires for cheap. ;)

Would you buy stolen car parts too?  I don't see any difference if they stole the design and tech from someone.

No Chinese junk tires for me, I don't care how good they are.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2012, 10:50:41 am »
I'll keep an open mind here.  The testers said there was no difference.  If the Sailuns last reasonably well, I don't think you are "cheaping out" by buying them. 

In fact, if you can get 2 sets of Sailuns (say summer and winter, or replace the all-seasons twice as often) for the price of 1 set of Contis (or whatever), then in fact I'd argue your safety is increased with these tires. 

I've had name brand tires with epic failures, so I'm not convinced that ones needs a Michelin to be safe.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 10:53:26 am »
I bought a set of Sailun winter tires for my Miata after this test (I was that impressed).  Expect long term test results of them over the winter.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 03:20:06 pm »
Thanks for the review. I'd like to see more comparisons with a variety of manufacturers not just one as chosen by the Sailun in order to increase my comfort level with a new player to the market. I admit if someone told me that they were a new brand from ...let's say Sweden I'd be more inclined to purchase a winter set vs China. My biases are based solely on prior experiences.
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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 03:33:06 pm »
My biggest worry, Buffalo Narrows, Northern Saskatchewan, 9PM on a Saturday, your Sailun has just shredded itself......whats the chance that Murph the town mechanic/surgeon is going to have a set of Sailuns in the back of his shop??? I just dont like these Wal mart type of tires because of their lack of popularity. Also, Im with JJ72, Ill pay a little more for the name brand tires, no sense in risking my families safety for a few dollars.

+100% I will wait for long term testing before I would put them on my list for consideration.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 03:37:51 pm »
To Mike Schlee:

Mike, would you be able to tell us when and where these tires will be sold?  Any idea?  Or is it still too soon to tell.

Thanks.

Tires are already on sale.  Visit sailuntires.ca for local dealers.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2012, 03:37:56 pm »
My biggest worry, Buffalo Narrows, Northern Saskatchewan, 9PM on a Saturday, your Sailun has just shredded itself......whats the chance that Murph the town mechanic/surgeon is going to have a set of Sailuns in the back of his shop??? I just dont like these Wal mart type of tires because of their lack of popularity. Also, Im with JJ72, Ill pay a little more for the name brand tires, no sense in risking my families safety for a few dollars.

That concern also applies to some extent to winter tires generally.  Once supply runs out, they can be difficult to source, even in, say, February, when you need them still.   

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2012, 08:01:41 pm »
i would be willing to keep an open eye...while there is a lot of "crap" coming from China, that isn't because they are incapable of making good stuff...it's because the companies we purchase our stuff from, have spec'd product accordingly (likely, the cheapest they can get, so they can maximize profits)...you can get high quality items from China, but no one would like buy them (as shown in here), because everyone associates "Made in China" with junk...China doesn't make junk, China has been told to make junk...there's a difference.

case in point, a Husky injection moulding machine, ABB robot or Schuler press all work the same, whether it is located in Canada, USA, Germany or China.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #15 on: October 26, 2012, 08:06:08 pm »
i would be willing to keep an open eye...while there is a lot of "crap" coming from China, that isn't because they are incapable of making good stuff...it's because the companies we purchase our stuff from, have spec'd product accordingly (likely, the cheapest they can get, so they can maximize profits)...you can get high quality items from China, but no one would like buy them (as shown in here), because everyone associates "Made in China" with junk...China doesn't make junk, China has been told to make junk...there's a difference.

case in point, a Husky injection moulding machine, ABB robot or Schuler press all work the same, whether it is located in Canada, USA, Germany or China.

There are 400 tire plants in China right now.  They are literally world class facilities with zero tolerances for errors, to ones that are making tires almost by hand in wooden barns.  Sailun luckily is the former.  The government is trying to consolidate it down to a dozen or so.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2012, 08:16:10 pm »
I don't care is the company was called Gerhardt and they were making them in Stuttgart. It's about having established credibility though a history of providing quality products with a  proven track record.

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2012, 08:48:43 pm »
PPL ... stop the whining.  ;D

Every bloody thing in this world is made in China and tires are one of them.  Forget the fact that the Chinese State is a communist horrible sh*t hole that views Canada and it's puppet master Harponi The Magnificent as a cheap Tuesday night whore.  Michelin, Bridgestone et al, are all present in China.  Rubber is rubber.  It's just one of the last notable consumer goods that has transfered from Canada to China.

Twenty five years ago the Koreans came into Canada and it was the same.  Now their tires are mainstream.

 
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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2012, 09:28:29 pm »
PPL ... stop the whining.  ;D

Every bloody thing in this world is made in China and tires are one of them.  Forget the fact that the Chinese State is a communist horrible sh*t hole that views Canada and it's puppet master Harponi The Magnificent as a cheap Tuesday night whore.  Michelin, Bridgestone et al, are all present in China.  Rubber is rubber.  It's just one of the last notable consumer goods that has transfered from Canada to China.

Twenty five years ago the Koreans came into Canada and it was the same.  Now their tires are mainstream.

 

Call me in twenty years then  :)

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Re: Tire Review: Sailun Z4+AS
« Reply #19 on: October 27, 2012, 10:09:56 am »
Call me in twenty years then  :)
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