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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1960 on: July 28, 2014, 11:38:17 pm »
Looks expensive...

The one I rode set the owner back ~$10K.  But he's a competitive Iron Man and likes his toys.  It's possible to get a good bike for less, and it's possible to spend more too.

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1961 on: July 28, 2014, 11:55:26 pm »
Looks expensive...

The one I rode set the owner back ~$10K.  But he's a competitive Iron Man and likes his toys.  It's possible to get a good bike for less, and it's possible to spend more too.

I see $10K and I think of one of these for that...or less (used).

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1962 on: July 29, 2014, 01:32:08 am »
A few snapshots of some vintage bicycles that I saw in a museum recently.

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1963 on: July 29, 2014, 10:07:46 am »
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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1964 on: July 29, 2014, 10:21:57 am »
+1  I saw a guy ridding a penny farthing in downtown Toronto this summer. Now that is crazy.

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1965 on: July 29, 2014, 11:26:25 am »
+1  I saw a guy ridding a penny farthing in downtown Toronto this summer. Now that is crazy.

And to think that they actually raced those things (and some still do). The bigger the wheel, the faster you could go - apparently well over 40kph. :o

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1966 on: July 29, 2014, 12:23:23 pm »
Looks expensive...

The one I rode set the owner back ~$10K.  But he's a competitive Iron Man and likes his toys.  It's possible to get a good bike for less, and it's possible to spend more too.

How smooth - or not - was the ride?  Did you feel every tiny bump and crack in the road?  Aero-focussed road bikes don't have a particularly good rep for vertical compliance, and I would imagine that a tri-bike would be even more jarring.
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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1967 on: July 29, 2014, 01:14:50 pm »
How smooth - or not - was the ride?  Did you feel every tiny bump and crack in the road?  Aero-focussed road bikes don't have a particularly good rep for vertical compliance, and I would imagine that a tri-bike would be even more jarring.

It's a good thing I don't have any fillings, or they'd be gone.  I found it especially harsh coming off my front-suspension cushy tire mountain bike.

Some other observations...

1. The bike hates slow speeds.  I can crawl around on the MTB with no problem.  The tri bike, no way.  You need speed, and the more, the better the bike feels.

2. That said, at any speed, the steering is a hair trigger compared to other bikes I've ridden.

3. Riding on grades felt super odd.  I noticed the slightest down grade as the bike would pick up speed so easily.  However, I barely noticed slight hills that probably would have required a shift on the MTB.  The power transfer is so efficient.

4. I had to be very conscious to look far ahead.  The MTB is like driving the Highlander.  You're upright and naturally see far ahead.  The tri bike requires you to look.  Of course, riding it all the time it would become second nature, but it was odd getting off my bike onto that one.

5. There was a decent stretch of asphalt trail that ran parallel to the road.  It was funny traveling quite a bit faster than the flow of automotive traffic.

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1968 on: July 29, 2014, 06:50:40 pm »
Decided to weigh myself naked and then fully kitted up plus my bike with everything I'm taking which included old batteries (I'd guess 10-15 pounds worth) that I was taking in for recycling.

Naked = 183.4 pounds
Loaded = 236.5 pounds

Difference = 53.2 pounds

While I could feel the added weight when taking off or climbing it really wasn't all that bad. Of course I didn't go for any personal records. I forgot to weigh myself without the batteries to see how much they really were. This was with my commuter bike that has full fenders, rack and panniers.

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1969 on: July 29, 2014, 07:41:21 pm »
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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1970 on: July 29, 2014, 08:52:14 pm »
124k today.....albeit with a 2.5 hour rest between  :)

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1971 on: July 29, 2014, 09:13:36 pm »
124k today.....albeit with a 2.5 hour rest between  :)

Congrats that is awesome!  You now earned your (split) Cdn century badge. Great job!

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Re: The Cycling Thread
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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1973 on: July 29, 2014, 09:25:32 pm »
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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1974 on: July 29, 2014, 09:52:11 pm »
Decided to weigh myself naked and then fully kitted up plus my bike with everything I'm taking which included old batteries (I'd guess 10-15 pounds worth) that I was taking in for recycling.

Naked = 183.4 pounds
Loaded = 236.5 pounds

Difference = 53.2 pounds

While I could feel the added weight when taking off or climbing it really wasn't all that bad. Of course I didn't go for any personal records. I forgot to weigh myself without the batteries to see how much they really were. This was with my commuter bike that has full fenders, rack and panniers.

Which is why I scratch my head when guys on bike forums go on ad nauseam about shaving a few grams here and there.  Heck, even if we're talking about a pound or two - how much difference can that make to the overall mass of bike plus rider plus kit (even if you're not hauling batteries)?

Anyway - Snowy - well done on the 124km!

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1975 on: July 29, 2014, 09:53:37 pm »
How smooth - or not - was the ride?  Did you feel every tiny bump and crack in the road?  Aero-focussed road bikes don't have a particularly good rep for vertical compliance, and I would imagine that a tri-bike would be even more jarring.

It's a good thing I don't have any fillings, or they'd be gone.  I found it especially harsh coming off my front-suspension cushy tire mountain bike.

Some other observations...

1. The bike hates slow speeds.  I can crawl around on the MTB with no problem.  The tri bike, no way.  You need speed, and the more, the better the bike feels.

2. That said, at any speed, the steering is a hair trigger compared to other bikes I've ridden.

3. Riding on grades felt super odd.  I noticed the slightest down grade as the bike would pick up speed so easily.  However, I barely noticed slight hills that probably would have required a shift on the MTB.  The power transfer is so efficient.

4. I had to be very conscious to look far ahead.  The MTB is like driving the Highlander.  You're upright and naturally see far ahead.  The tri bike requires you to look.  Of course, riding it all the time it would become second nature, but it was odd getting off my bike onto that one.

5. There was a decent stretch of asphalt trail that ran parallel to the road.  It was funny traveling quite a bit faster than the flow of automotive traffic.

I'd love to try one out for the experience, but don't think I'd want to attempt my first century on one.  I have fillings.

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1976 on: July 29, 2014, 10:00:55 pm »

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1977 on: July 29, 2014, 10:03:12 pm »
124k today.....albeit with a 2.5 hour rest between  :)

Congrats that is awesome!  You now earned your (split) Cdn century badge. Great job!

Thanks, the 1250k for the month is my goal but it looks like I am running out of days  ;D

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1978 on: July 29, 2014, 10:11:12 pm »
124k today.....albeit with a 2.5 hour rest between  :)

Congrats that is awesome!  You now earned your (split) Cdn century badge. Great job!

Thanks, the 1250k for the month is my goal but it looks like I am running out of days  ;D

If your Strava is up to date (site is have issues now) you only need 94.7 more so two days of 47.35 each. You can do it.

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Re: The Cycling Thread
« Reply #1979 on: July 29, 2014, 10:21:14 pm »
Decided to weigh myself naked and then fully kitted up plus my bike with everything I'm taking which included old batteries (I'd guess 10-15 pounds worth) that I was taking in for recycling.

Naked = 183.4 pounds
Loaded = 236.5 pounds

Difference = 53.2 pounds

While I could feel the added weight when taking off or climbing it really wasn't all that bad. Of course I didn't go for any personal records. I forgot to weigh myself without the batteries to see how much they really were. This was with my commuter bike that has full fenders, rack and panniers.

Which is why I scratch my head when guys on bike forums go on ad nauseam about shaving a few grams here and there.  Heck, even if we're talking about a pound or two - how much difference can that make to the overall mass of bike plus rider plus kit (even if you're not hauling batteries)?

It all depends on what your goal is. If racing for seconds then I can fully understand it but for the guy that is 20 pound over weight, not a chance.

Do a 20km (or more) climb @ 5% (or more) and you may wish your bike was 1 (or more) pound(s) less. That little bit of energy saved is energy you will need closer to the top of the climb. Again, this is only important if you are riding competitively. I think the difference in weight between my two bikes (before I put anything in the panniers) is around 5-7 pounds. When climbing normally (IE: not trying) I'm sure my speed is nearly identical. But when I race to the top for every last second, I prefer to do that using my race bike.

Weight does make a difference. If you care or not, that is up to the rider and their wallet.