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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #40 on: February 07, 2012, 08:55:47 pm »
i was checking out the passat tdi, cc 2l turbo and gli, and the gli wasn't offered with xenons.  odd since the gti has them. 

This is interesting because I believe the previous-gen GLI did have them, as did the Jetta 2.0T Wolfsburg. Either way, many aftermarket lighting upgrades are available for those who truly feel it is required.

Xenon may look good but isn't a guarantee of better lighting performance. I remember a study a few years ago in a popular automotive magazine that compared headlight performance of almost every new car as part of a comparison. The halogens in several of the cars outperformed Xenon lights from luxury cars for distance and width. I have always found Toyota makes excellent lighting systems, and up until recently very few of their cars offered Xenon lights.

I'd never go back to halogens. The difference is.... 'night and day'.



Same. Xenons, properly done and not some terrible 8000K stuff in a halogen reflector housing, are a huge upgrade IMHO.
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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #41 on: February 07, 2012, 09:00:59 pm »
I would not go back to Halogens either
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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #42 on: February 07, 2012, 09:10:52 pm »
Bah - Xenon's are yesterday's news.  LEDs are the current hot ticket.

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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #43 on: February 07, 2012, 09:31:30 pm »
I'd never go back to halogens. The difference is.... 'night and day'.


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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #44 on: February 07, 2012, 10:13:14 pm »
"The 3.6-litre engine was noticeably quicker than the turbocharged four and more than offset the added weight of the AWD system. Yet the four gives up little to the V6".

Am I the only one who finds these two sentences contradictory ?!

 
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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #45 on: February 07, 2012, 10:26:26 pm »
It's almost as though vw doesn"t want the gli to cut into the cc's sales by offering xenons.  Same goes for the passat.   No xenons.   And no diesel for the cc.   Too bad. 
« Last Edit: February 09, 2012, 06:45:07 am by kevlar »

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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #46 on: February 07, 2012, 10:31:30 pm »
I'd agree with the Xenon statement. Once you have them you cannot back. When shopping recently I was surprised that they're an option and usually lumped into an expensive option package on a lot of vehicles (even some high end stuff). Bastards!

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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #47 on: February 07, 2012, 10:37:15 pm »
Bah - Xenon's are yesterday's news.  LEDs are the current hot ticket.

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Don't LEDs have a really narrow beam?

I hate LED strips too, at least in the front. Taillights is ok.

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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #48 on: February 07, 2012, 10:39:39 pm »
Seems everyone is rolling with the LED strips now since Audi brought them out. Some look great some not so much.

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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #49 on: February 07, 2012, 10:50:34 pm »
Seems everyone is rolling with the LED strips now since Audi LEXUS brought them out. Some look great some not so much.

Fixed!!

Lexus beat Audi with the LEDs.  LED has been on the LS600h since 2007.

http://www.automotto.com/entry/toyota-lexus-ls600h-worlds-first-car-to-tout-an-led-headlight-using-white-leds/
« Last Edit: February 07, 2012, 10:52:16 pm by rrocket »
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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2012, 09:51:17 am »
Bah - Xenon's are yesterday's news.  LEDs are the current hot ticket.

Jaeger

Don't LEDs have a really narrow beam?

I hate LED strips too, at least in the front. Taillights is ok.

Don't know really.  I read a mag review recently where some upscale ride (might have been an Audi) was touting the benefits of its new LED headlights - not just the narrow DRL strip - as being the next step in the evolution of headlight design.

I don't think there's any question that proper HID's beat the crap out of halogens.  But then again, 99% of my driving is done in places where they have got wind of the invention of electricity, and the roads are lit - from side streets to major highways.  The benefits of HIDs over good projector halogens just don't make an impact on my driving.  I'd rather have them than not, but it wouldn't be a deal-breaker for me.

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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2012, 12:50:59 pm »
Audi's new commercial is pretty funny:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lw9ZeXB2uKs

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Re: First Drive: 2013 Volkswagen CC
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