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Re: Day-by-Day Review: 2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI; Day 1
« Reply #120 on: January 08, 2012, 07:50:08 pm »

Please.  That's one of VW weak points...poor electronics and glitches.  Or have you been living underground the last several years??
i am well aware of it...however, my parents VW hasn't exhibited any issues in the 2.5 years since they purchased it...as well, as i mentioned, it's been 3 years and most in here didn't even know it had it, therefore, had it been prone to issues, it would have been discussed...it hasn't...that is my point.

I'd say give it 5 years. Then we will see if the true VW starts to show.

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Re: Day-by-Day Review: 2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI; Day 1
« Reply #121 on: January 09, 2012, 10:01:10 am »

Please.  That's one of VW weak points...poor electronics and glitches.  Or have you been living underground the last several years??
i am well aware of it...however, my parents VW hasn't exhibited any issues in the 2.5 years since they purchased it...as well, as i mentioned, it's been 3 years and most in here didn't even know it had it, therefore, had it been prone to issues, it would have been discussed...it hasn't...that is my point.

I'd say give it 5 years. Then we will see if the true VW starts to show.

People keep cars for longer than 5 yrs  ???   :P

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Re: Day-by-Day Review: 2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI; Day 1
« Reply #122 on: January 09, 2012, 10:27:43 am »
My 2010 Golf has a supplemental electric heater which starts warming the air immediately upon a cold start and continues until the engine is warm enough.  You hear relays clicking on and off, since there is a protection built in should the load on the electrical system be too much, like when idling with the headlights on (not the driving lights).  The 2010 is considerably more comfortable to drive in Winter than my 2006 and 1987 in so far as cabin heat is concerned.  You can idle the car from start for 5 minutes and you feel the edge being taken off the cold in the cabin.  Didn't have that with the other two cars.

Very good news. And what about ability to deal with frost on windshield? I'm assuming this electric heater can handle it.

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Re: Day-by-Day Review: 2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI; Day 1
« Reply #123 on: January 09, 2012, 03:14:33 pm »
Well, just like many other car comparisons, there's gonna be different strokes for different folks. Some people place a greater value on the Germanic driving experience and upscale interior and don't mind paying a bit more for maintenance and repairs when they occur. Others want an utterly reliable appliance that gets them from A to B with a low running cost and minimal maintenance requirements. For those in the second camp, there are probably better choices than the Golf TDI. Won't say that it's wrong or right- that's the beauty of having alternatives to choose from.

Personally, I value the driving experience, engineering detail, and interior quality/feel (not so much appearances- it has to work well). Being complex machines, I don't expect 100% reliability for 7 years. Things will break, repairs have to be made and paid for. It seems my X3 seems to require a significant repair or maintenance bill ($1500+) once a year, but that's fine by me for a nearly 8-year old vehicle that has over 189.000km on the clock. That's just what I expect from a car. Few, if anything else breaks in between, and I do a conservative oil change every 15.000km. Everything still works on the car.

But I care a lot about the steering, brakes, response, chassis, and all those other less tangible things. When I test drove the TDI, each time, it checked off those boxes. The interior knobs and switches feel substantial (ahem, Ford Focus pay attention), the brakes feel firm, the steering and chassis talk to me. And since most of my driving is highway at higher speeds, the diesel fuel consumption and autobahn-bred suspension are great plus points. I was in a bit of a rush last month and thus, drove a stretch of very rural freeway averaging about 150+km/h over distance of about 100km. Fairly high revs and speed, but it was as easy and relaxing as pie; the car's built for it. Too bad it guzzled fuel (averaged 11 l/100km), but a Golf TDI would solve that!

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Re: Day-by-Day Review: 2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI; Day 1
« Reply #124 on: January 09, 2012, 06:51:55 pm »
Nice Review James, very accurate.
One neat feature you overlooked is how in winter you can move the wipers to a vertical position after you have turned the ignition off by pushing down on the wiper stalk.It is then much easier to then clean the snow off next morning. :)

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Re: Day-by-Day Review: 2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI; Day 1
« Reply #125 on: January 09, 2012, 08:04:39 pm »

Please.  That's one of VW weak points...poor electronics and glitches.  Or have you been living underground the last several years??
i am well aware of it...however, my parents VW hasn't exhibited any issues in the 2.5 years since they purchased it...as well, as i mentioned, it's been 3 years and most in here didn't even know it had it, therefore, had it been prone to issues, it would have been discussed...it hasn't...that is my point.

I'd say give it 5 years. Then we will see if the true VW starts to show.






People keep cars for longer than 5 yrs  ???   :P

I do, and want minimal maintenance.

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Re: Day-by-Day Review: 2012 Volkswagen Golf TDI; Day 1
« Reply #126 on: January 10, 2012, 11:51:20 am »
Well, just like many other car comparisons, there's gonna be different strokes for different folks. Some people place a greater value on the Germanic driving experience and upscale interior and don't mind paying a bit more for maintenance and repairs when they occur. Others want an utterly reliable appliance that gets them from A to B with a low running cost and minimal maintenance requirements. For those in the second camp, there are probably better choices than the Golf TDI. Won't say that it's wrong or right- that's the beauty of having alternatives to choose from.

Personally, I value the driving experience, engineering detail, and interior quality/feel (not so much appearances- it has to work well). Being complex machines, I don't expect 100% reliability for 7 years. Things will break, repairs have to be made and paid for. It seems my X3 seems to require a significant repair or maintenance bill ($1500+) once a year, but that's fine by me for a nearly 8-year old vehicle that has over 189.000km on the clock. That's just what I expect from a car. Few, if anything else breaks in between, and I do a conservative oil change every 15.000km. Everything still works on the car.

But I care a lot about the steering, brakes, response, chassis, and all those other less tangible things. When I test drove the TDI, each time, it checked off those boxes. The interior knobs and switches feel substantial (ahem, Ford Focus pay attention), the brakes feel firm, the steering and chassis talk to me. And since most of my driving is highway at higher speeds, the diesel fuel consumption and autobahn-bred suspension are great plus points. I was in a bit of a rush last month and thus, drove a stretch of very rural freeway averaging about 150+km/h over distance of about 100km. Fairly high revs and speed, but it was as easy and relaxing as pie; the car's built for it. Too bad it guzzled fuel (averaged 11 l/100km), but a Golf TDI would solve that!

None of what you value in a car is or should be mutually exclusive with reliability.