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If it saves just one life
« on: December 08, 2011, 09:42:18 am »
States that legalize medical marijuana see fewer fatal car accidents, according to a new study.
Comparing traffic deaths over time in states with and without medical marijuana law changes, the researchers found that fatal car wrecks dropped by 9% in states that legalized medical use — which was largely attributable to a decline in drunk driving. The researchers controlled for other factors like changes in driving laws and the number of miles driven that could affect the results.
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Read more: http://healthland.time.com/2011/12/02/why-medical-marijuana-laws-reduce-traffic-deaths/#ixzz1fxDcRfwk

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2011, 10:49:50 am »
TOO BOMBED TO DRIVE................. :rofl2:   but the addenda shows Dorrito sales DOUBLED....... :lick: :drool: :fall: :think:
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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2011, 04:53:07 pm »
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Studies have consistently found that while mixing either marijuana or alcohol with driving is unadvisable, driving high is much safer than driving drunk. Research on stoned driving is inconsistent, with some studies finding impairment and others not; the alcohol data, however, is clear in establishing a link between drinking and significant deterioration in driving skills. The data also consistently shows that using both drugs together is worst of all.

Driving under the influence of marijuana seems to be less risky because people who are high tend to be aware that they are impaired and compensate, while alcohol tends to increase recklessness and create false confidence. Also, people are more likely to smoke weed at home or in private, rather than out at bars or other public events that require driving to get to.

This part is very interesting. I'm not surprised by the findings - the effects of alcohol and marijuana are indeed very different. I do wonder, though, if full legalization would mitigate the effects? i.e., if "people are more likely to smoke weed at home or in private, rather than out at bars or other public events that require driving to get to", would full legalization lead to "pot bars", and more driving, and more pot-related car crashes?

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2011, 07:02:19 pm »
wouldn't this result in MORE POT (A) HOLES on the road.............. ??? :lick: :bow2: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2011, 07:19:19 pm »
*Note the article is referring to MEDICINAL marijuana consumption, which is completely different from legalizing marijuana. If you're in pain, and your options are getting hammered (to dull the pain) or getting high (to dull the pain), then the effects of weed are less destructive to ones ability to drive than alcohol. I can see the logic of marijuana vs. booze, but in regards to traffic fatalities I think this study is a bit of a stretch.


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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2011, 08:01:22 pm »
*Note the article is referring to MEDICINAL marijuana consumption, which is completely different from legalizing marijuana. If you're in pain, and your options are getting hammered (to dull the pain) or getting high (to dull the pain), then the effects of weed are less destructive to ones ability to drive than alcohol. I can see the logic of marijuana vs. booze, but in regards to traffic fatalities I think this study is a bit of a stretch.


but what does weed do to your lungs?
it it worst then what booze does to your liver

I also believe weed  should be legalizing but should you be smoking it?

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2011, 08:09:55 pm »
One of the methods police in the US use to determine find driver's who are stoned is they look for people who are driving UNDER the speed limit...
How fast is my Supra?  I sh*t on Cessnas from a roll....

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2011, 08:18:21 pm »
One of the methods police in the US use to determine find driver's who are stoned is they look for people who are driving UNDER the speed limit...
they probably ignores Prius then  ;D

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Re: If it saves just one life
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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 08:44:23 pm »
Best Gear/Top Gear also did a test where they got people stoned and let them drive and found them to be safer.  Under speed limit, not rolling stops, etc..

Anyone I've ever known that got stoned had no desire to drive a car.  They wanted to sit on the couch with a bag of Fritos and just chill..... :rofl2:

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2011, 12:24:16 am »
but what does weed do to your lungs?
it it worst then what booze does to your liver

I also believe weed  should be legalizing but should you be smoking it?

I'm not sure about how much damage weed does to your lungs vs. the damage alcohol does to your liver. I do believe (from what I've read/head) that a single marijuana cigarette is worse for you than a typical tobacco cigarette... the flip side being, very few people will smoke a pack a day of marijuana cigarettes.

It's an interesting point, but at the end of the day, even if marijuana is harmful to our bodies, is that any of the government's businesses? An argument could be made that it affects health care costs, but so does overeating, and that's not government regulated... so even if smoking weed is bad for us physically, that's not a compelling reason for government intervention in my books.

*Note the article is referring to MEDICINAL marijuana consumption, which is completely different from legalizing marijuana. If you're in pain, and your options are getting hammered (to dull the pain) or getting high (to dull the pain), then the effects of weed are less destructive to ones ability to drive than alcohol. I can see the logic of marijuana vs. booze, but in regards to traffic fatalities I think this study is a bit of a stretch.

The impression I got from the article, and from medicinal marijuana in general, is that it's a baby step towards legalization. That is, it's easier to justify legalizing it for "medicinal" purposes than it is to just out and out legalize it. I believe once its been legalized for medicinal purposes, it becomes much more accessible/available for consumption in general... hence the jump from "medicinal" to full legalization. Medicinal is just an intermediate and short-term justification. :)

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2011, 06:02:33 am »

The weed didn't seem to help Spicoli.  ;D
http://www.anyclip.com/movies/fast-times-at-ridgemont-high/ajHHJtmtbh2mb/

Yeah but Spicoli had TV pot, the most potent marijuana in existence.
I often wonder if people who have never experienced marijuana think it's anything like pot as portrayed on TV?

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2011, 06:10:55 am »

The weed didn't seem to help Spicoli.  ;D
http://www.anyclip.com/movies/fast-times-at-ridgemont-high/ajHHJtmtbh2mb/

Yeah but Spicoli had TV pot, the most potent marijuana in existence.
I often wonder if people who have never experienced marijuana think it's anything like pot as portrayed on TV?
and I better a lot different then the pot in the '70's

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2011, 06:39:39 am »

The weed didn't seem to help Spicoli.  ;D
http://www.anyclip.com/movies/fast-times-at-ridgemont-high/ajHHJtmtbh2mb/

Yeah but Spicoli had TV pot, the most potent marijuana in existence.
I often wonder if people who have never experienced marijuana think it's anything like pot as portrayed on TV?

Depends what type you're smoking.  The "good" grass from the 60s-70s had a THC content of between 5-10%.  Hybrid strains now can have 25+% THC and are absolutely couch lock potent, bordering on a narcotic stone. 

There are some hugely heavy hitting strains out there now.

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2011, 06:42:40 am »

I'm not sure about how much damage weed does to your lungs vs. the damage alcohol does to your liver. I do believe (from what I've read/head) that a single marijuana cigarette is worse for you than a typical tobacco cigarette... the flip side being, very few people will smoke a pack a day of marijuana cigarettes.



If that's the case, then you'll want to "smoke" it through a vaporizer.  The device will vaporize only the THC and not the plant matter, making for a very clean smoke that's very easy on your lung.

This is how it's delivered to many medicinal users or those with sensitive lungs.  It also optimizes the stone.

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2011, 01:09:49 pm »

I'm not sure about how much damage weed does to your lungs vs. the damage alcohol does to your liver. I do believe (from what I've read/head) that a single marijuana cigarette is worse for you than a typical tobacco cigarette... the flip side being, very few people will smoke a pack a day of marijuana cigarettes.



If that's the case, then you'll want to "smoke" it through a vaporizer.  The device will vaporize only the THC and not the plant matter, making for a very clean smoke that's very easy on your lung.

This is how it's delivered to many medicinal users or those with sensitive lungs.  It also optimizes the stone.
you learn something new here everyday ;D

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2011, 01:16:10 pm »
I know 3 folks who (allegedly) smoke marijuana, and all 3 of them have suffered from an anxiety attack. None of my non-smoking friends have suffered such an attack. While this may just be a really odd coincidence, I'm not sure the stuff chills you out as much as people think...

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2011, 01:17:26 pm »

The weed didn't seem to help Spicoli.  ;D
http://www.anyclip.com/movies/fast-times-at-ridgemont-high/ajHHJtmtbh2mb/

Yeah but Spicoli had TV pot, the most potent marijuana in existence.
I often wonder if people who have never experienced marijuana think it's anything like pot as portrayed on TV?

Agreed, I'm sure there are a lot of misconceptions about marijuana among those who have not been around it before. I just had to share the Spicoli clip because it was my favorite scene in the movie. ;D

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2011, 01:24:56 pm »
I know 3 folks who (allegedly) smoke marijuana, and all 3 of them have suffered from an anxiety attack. None of my non-smoking friends have suffered such an attack. While this may just be a really odd coincidence, I'm not sure the stuff chills you out as much as people think...

I think it is not uncommon for some users of marijuana develop anxiety issues, usually related to habitual use. What is not clear to me if these particular people have underlying anxiety issues that are exacerbated by habitual use.

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Re: If it saves just one life
« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2011, 01:26:23 pm »
Vaporized OR NOT..yer Hammered.........